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    Kolox is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante
    Archer had that kind of mentality; so, it's not as if it is impossible for Emiya Shirō to end up thinking that way.
    As far as Archer is concerned, Archer is the biggest fake of it all - I don't think he really believes in what he says. He went almost mad (or completely, depends on perspective), but either way he never planned on harming anyone except Emiya Shirou - but his actions almost led to something else.

    On a side note, did they change Lelouch's voice? Doesn't sound the same to me
    Sounds the same for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie
    ..jump on Gawain..
    Gawain is dead, baby, Gawain is dead

    Suzaku of course goes on to become the beloved new governor of Japan
    I had some doubts with Japanese fallowing Zero, but I think they hate Suzaku even more.

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    Imagine if everything that has happened to Lulu is actually part of the British emperor's plan to make his successor, Lelouch stronger. That would be a twist.

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    ^ I would like that and it's sounds quite possible, but a little naive of Emperor too - he knows Lelouch would still kill him.

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    ^Unless he get to C.C powers first.

    But anyway, barging in the topic, It's just me that wishes Lelouch to get CC immortality power just so he can be abused mutilated and killed over and over again for the rest of eternity?

    Suzaku was the only one that were doing what he thought the right to do, for the rest of the people.

    Lelouch is just a ass that is using everyone's for his personal reasons
    Him abandoning everyone was just proof of that.. Ow but he went for nunnaly.. c'mon.

    Of course, now both are doing things for personal reasons, so both are just asses.. but personally I don't care about suzaku, but as long Lelouch suffer I'm happy!

    Doing whatever to save his sister or grand her wishes will not atone for his sins, or can be used as excuse for anything.
    And with Susaku sacrificing isn't much of a option anymore since of the "Live" command is non-time sensitive.. he won't die so easily now!

    I have nothing against suzaku as to joining Britania's force.
    But is there a choice? now its a matter of personal opinions.. what side to support? its is really ok to do whatever it means, to end it? either side?
    Country have invaded others in countless points of history, there were aways who favored and thoses who opposed.. even from the country being invaded.

    Lastly I don't see a problem with him(Suzaku) getting a Geass, but to me, seems what Suzaku got from it wasn't a geass but more like a "Geass detector", probably its what got him into the Knights of the round.. and that will put hell lot of pressure on Lelouch once he discover the fact that he can't use his geass anymore so freely, or that he can be constantly tracked by Suzaku~
    Last edited by irecinius; 04-11-2008 at 07:58 AM.

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    ^ The difference is that one whole heartedly thinks (or thought, dunno what he thinks now) that he is working for justice while the other one is fully aware of his faults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman2x7 View Post
    Where is his permanent Geass?
    like i posted in the other thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferozban View Post
    you cant use a muscle if you dont know that you have it. same goes for geass
    the permanent geass is still there, he just didnt knew it. SO his eyes were normal, but as soon as he remembered, his geass came back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    As far as Archer is concerned, Archer is the biggest fake of it all - I don't think he really believes in what he says. He went almost mad (or completely, depends on perspective), but either way he never planned on harming anyone except Emiya Shirou - but his actions almost led to something else.
    What is there not to believe? That's the truth. In the end, if you want to fight for justice, you'll end up killing people. There's a big difference between accepting that truth while putting it into practice, and liking it.

    If you do not want to believe Archer's words, take a look at Shirō in Fate route when he was choking Shinji. It was not even to save a vast majority; it simply was the easiest method to keep Saber alive (since having her fight Rider was dangerous). Also, in Heaven's Feel he bypassed that fact that Sakura killed 60+ people.

    Anyway, I do not think this thread is good place to discuss this matters. Feel free to PM me if you feel like keeping up this discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by animefan View Post
    Imagine if everything that has happened to Lulu is actually part of the British emperor's plan to make his successor, Lelouch stronger. That would be a twist.
    Britannia != British Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    Suzaku was the only one that were doing what he thought the right to do, for the rest of the people.

    Lelouch is just a ass that is using everyone's for his personal reasons
    Him abandoning everyone was just proof of that.. Ow but he went for nunnaly.. c'mon.
    The 11's are using him as well; you call that "cooperation". The problem is they never knew, or even cared to ask what were Zero's ambitions; they just assumed he was fighting for the liberation of Area 11, and the restoration of Japan.

    Also, as you can see, they still want him as a leader. They do not care what he does as long as he guides them to victory.

    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    what side to support? its is really ok to do whatever it means, to end it? either side?
    In this case you either submit or fight; Suzaku chose the former, whereas Lelouch chose the latter. A concept such as "good" is really relative, since in this case you measure things by its results.

    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    one whole heartedly thinks (or thought, dunno what he thinks now) that he is working for justice
    Has Suzaku ever mentioned anything about justice? For all I know, he is simply being extremely pragmatic.


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    But now I guess its more of what lelouch will do.

    If he does manage to defeat Britannia! (as he intend to) since he is little past area11's liberation.
    I'm pretty sure he will be the "next" emperor just like his father(?) its real father the emp.? just figurative speech?.

    I guess no one realized that what they need its some democratic republic.. not another monarch!
    Even if Lelouch is being the leader, will still be the same, he will then go from Liberating Area11, to peace reinging over the whole world!
    (Power does rise to your head pretty fast, that is a given!)

    Suzaku at least shown "some" hints that he might had understand this.. But I guess its long gone now, with the will of revenge, and he will be used merely for fight actions now..

    We need some "L" now.. that would be more interesting or a "N.L." =D

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    Theoretically, Lelouch plan was not to rule but create - He even called new Japan the "United States of Japan". Probably he would create a world, give up leadership of it and live with his little sister in the imouto-moe fetish world..

    ..but that doesn't work that way. Even if he somehow got himself to resign (and I think he enjoys himself to much) other wouldn't let him quit, wouldn't leave him alone.

    But then again, Lelouch somehow predicted that and wanted to find a "knight" for Nunnaly, so if he wasn't there he would be there for her - that knight was supposedly to be Suzaku but he ended up to be Lancelot pilot.

    I predict that somewhere near ending Lelouch will meet with Nunnaly who will be either brainwashed or twisted telling that the world Lelouch was trying to create for her is pathethic and stupid and only power is a answer.

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    EPISODE 2 IS AWESOME - ALL QUESTIONS ASKED WERE ANSWERED !! AWESOME !! "I AM ZERO" !!
    Last edited by Kolox; 04-13-2008 at 06:09 AM.

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    I'm waiting Eclipse dub, soon it gets out I'll post my thoughts on it..

    But for now:
    Lelouch plan was good, but he got himself way too deep, and got warped with all his power, now he thinks he can do anything.
    Not to forget C.C. Contract, that has to be something even more moronic, like wiping the world that made her suffer or something... (or getting pregnant o.O)

    Well I just wish we had now a second character of equal intelect that would side with neither Britannia or Area11, but work on getting Zero AND dethroning Emperor!
    Ho.. that would be awesome, he could even use Suzaku as double agent, not a bad idea you know..
    Last edited by irecinius; 04-13-2008 at 11:29 AM.

 

 
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