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    Ferozban is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    What i hate most about Suzaku is the fact that he talks about peace and shit while killing his fellow-countrymen, exposing them to allmost slavery by the britans. and thats what he calls fighting for peace, instead of really fighting for their freedom like the rebells do.
    he wants to prevent more victims: well he could have, if he wouldnt have fought on the britisch side. he's a hypocrite to the core.

    and he killed his father who fought for his country... no comment.


    PS: i never liked shirou either, at least not the shirou from the fate route. but shirou is also way more sympathetic to me than suzaku

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferozban View Post
    What i hate most about Suzaku is the fact that he talks about peace and shit while killing his fellow-countrymen, exposing them to allmost slavery by the britans. and thats what he calls fighting for peace, instead of really fighting for their freedom like the rebells do.
    he wants to prevent more victims: well he could have, if he wouldnt have fought on the britisch side. he's a hypocrite to the core.

    and he killed his father who fought for his country... no comment.


    PS: i never liked shirou either, at least not the shirou from the fate route. but shirou is also way more sympathetic to me than suzaku
    Sorry,but I like Suzaku as well.

    You've given reasons why you should like him lol

    Its his contradicting views and hypocriticism which make him a good character. Him and Lelouch believe they're both justice, but Lelouch is aware he's killing people for his justice and has to become a demon to see it succeed whereas Suzaku is someone who kills people based on righteousness(To him, Brittannia is law as they run Area 11 so their choices are right even though they are brutal and somewhat wrong). He struggles with this in the 1st season and even Lloyd points out his hypocriticism. Remember he's a caring person as well(Lelouch,Nunnally,Euphie) and worries about Lulu through most of the 1st season. Main thing though is was he originally was a normal solider at the beginning now he's a Knight directly serving the Emperor and the Brittannians are meant to look down at Elevens!

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    And they are - but Suzaku is no longer Eleven. In eyes of Britannia, he is 11 who has converted himself (Ancient Rome used to call everyone barbarian who didn't spoke their language, but they were quite accepting of others if they presented valuable skills).

    Suzaku done nothing for his own people and actually he is just a bastard who thinks that if he dies then he will atone for his sins and the best way to do it is by being a soldier. He is no hero - he is just a very capable soldier - he is still a tool.

    Concerning something else, I actually found something that I really want to be explained.

    Karen.

    She knows about Geass now, she knows Lelouch used Geass on Euphemia (Suzaku said so) and she might think he used it on her too (and he did ;p). Lelouch never cared about Japan and he is not a hero which she portrayed in her mind.

    So why is she still willing to fallow him ? Love ? Please...

    Hope that he will lead them to victory ? That's a farfetched bet, considering a lot will think of Zero as either failure or traitor.

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    ^ Agreed. Suzaku is nothing but a misleaded tool. He was probably accepted to be directly under the Emperor's command because of his association with Euphie. (Judging from her lack of appearance in the OP, it looks like Euphie's never coming back.) And also how he brought down Zero. Which we still don't know how.

    "I have to save my only brother!" - Looks like Lulu's memories have been somewhat modified? Nunally only surfaced in his memories when he got his Geass back.

    And look! The Chinese Federation representatives are 2 men from ANCIENT china! I wonder if they'll become allies of Zero.

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    I smell Geass power of memory modification - lol, it would be rather stupid if suddenly appeared that Suzaku has Geass too.

    The only brother is evil, they try to portrait him as such innocent that it's almost obvious he will turn out as mastermind.

    Allies of Zero is a little to big of word. If Zero will be the same as before, they will be simply used by him - look at Japan Liberation Front or other - they weren't allies of Order of Black Knights - they were swallowed by black knights

    Zero MUST make a reference to a phoenix returning in ashes in next episodes - that would be so his style making this whole thing like it was a theatrical play.

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    Oh who knows? Suzaku just might have Geass. After all, he's met V.V.

    Lol I like the idea of evil lil brother. He could've just showed up on Lulu's doorstep one day claiming to be family and then he moved on to convince the people in school.

    The moment his Geass came back, all his dramatic and large hand gestures returned. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serph View Post
    Oh who knows? Suzaku just might have Geass. After all, he's met V.V.
    that would be very disappointing. i dont think i would watch code geass any further if that would happen. zero and susaku are not equal, and they should not be. they are so absolut opposites. he's a tool and he should stay a tool of those who have power until he dies.

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    Pfft, no way. Suzaku is the man. Focused, badass, wanting to extinguish the world of true faggots, can't get much better than that. Lulu's gonna have a hell of a time when he discovers Suzaku isn't just a knight on that chess board, he's a new piece never seen before: A trump card which can warp anywhere on the field, who can jump over and continue annihilating the opponent like a perfectly aligned chess match.

    In the end, Suzaku is going to abandon Lancelot Z2, jump on Gawain, tear Lulu out of the hatch, and break all his teeth in one punch. It will be so hilarious, with Lelouch flopping around like the pansy bitch he is, while Suzaku goes to town on his face. Then, when Lelouch's face is no longer recognizable, he will start wimpering and begging forgiveness. At this point, Suzaku will throw him on the ground, bring him Nunnaly, and tell him to get his fucking priorities in order. Of course, Nunnaly will not want to go because she learned what kind of evil monster Lelouch is, and will want to stay by Suzaku's side, but Suzaku just smiles, opens her eyes with his fingers, and says "I'm sorry Nunnaly, it's unfair to leave you with such a person, but death is too good for the man who used to be your brother. He needs to atone, and I need you here to make sure he does it properly."

    Afterwards, Lelouch goes into a paraplectic fit, and tears his own eyes out. He spends his final days as the legal adviser of an international charity for the disabled and mentally sick.

    Suzaku of course goes on to become the beloved new governor of Japan, which was reinstated its position as an independent allied country of Britainia for his incredible valor and fortitude. Parents across the world will tell their kids about the story of Suzaku Kururugi, the man who stood against the grimmest of fates and, with hard work and his own two hands, saved a nation from damnation.

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    ^ He can't - such things does not exist and there should be people who should not know about both Geass and Immortality - corruption is an awful variable. End even if you had planned to kill them after the accomplished the mision, you would need to take the risk they would spread the information about it to someone else.
    Oh yeah of course he wouldn't fill them in on the whole picture, but even just having them all wear digital goggles during the operation or telling them that she would be wearing a bullet proof vest would have probably prevented this appareantly stupid blunder.
    I'm probably reading far too much into this but still, it bothers me.

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    Its great that they got the second season up and running, but what did they do to it??
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    Why doesn't Lelouch remember anything? Where is his permanent Geass? What happened in the cave in during the last episode of season 1? Wheres his sister? and whose this new kid hes calling his brother?


    I know its only the first episode, but i didn't like how its not a direct continuation of the last season. The season ending in such a high note with that cliff hanger and now its seems as if they have to restart everything
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    On a side note, did they change Lelouch's voice? Doesn't sound the same to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    Emiya was always freelancer and he rejected laws like "The strongest will win"
    Archer had that kind of mentality; so, it's not as if it is impossible for Emiya Shirō to end up thinking that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seiga View Post
    Him and Lelouch believe they're both justice
    Since when did Lelouch care about justice? For him, this whole deal has been personal vendetta from the very beginning. Liberating Japan happens to be a result of his revenge, nothing more, nothing less.
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