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    youngi9031 is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    i have a question to the end of chrno crusade (manga version).
    in the last chapter chrno leaves rosette to have the final battle with aion...
    and after that pandaemonium(?) disappears with all demons...
    so what happens with rosette?
    in the chapter before, they undoned the contract between rosette and chrno.
    so rosette can live normal cant she?
    well, but azmaria sais in the end "....maybe even tommorrow that she..."
    dies or what????


    short: when does rosette die and does chrono come back after his fight?
    if rosette died, would chrno die with her, too?? (anime...)

    i hope that chrno comes back... because in the last page (or the page before the last one) there are chrno and rosette......>~~~~~~~~~

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    well she already has her life shortened so that cannot be recovered and chrno would also have to die unless he found himself another contract which obviously he doesnt.

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    as kaitoshinichi said, Rosette dies too young. but finally she will meet Chrno again (when I read the last chapter first time I really cried)
    still I wonder if Chrno will die... he used to sleep 50 years in a grave without a contract so I don't think he will die this time. Anyway it would be quite hard without Rosette...

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    Well, blast. My copy of the final volume is being lent out to a friend right now, so I'm going to have to work from memory.

    When I read it, I was under the impression that Chrno did die. There was no reason for him not to go back and see Rosette if he could, since the contract had been undone. Since Aion isn't the only other demon we see in the manga (by far), I assumed they were capable of getting to and from Earth. I thought that's why she was able to see him when she died, was because he was also dead. (I also thought it was a spot of time idea. Even if Rosette's life hadn't been that shortened by the contract, even if she had lived longer, her entire life was already going to be overshadowed by what had happened and by the memory of Chrno.)

    So, I thought Chrno died during the fight. I can't re-read the manga to check for evidence to the contrary right now, so if someone disagrees and produces it, then I'm wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiina View Post
    still I wonder if Chrno will die... he used to sleep 50 years in a grave without a contract so I don't think he will die this time. Anyway it would be quite hard without Rosette...
    I thought the reason he needed the contract wasn't to keep himself from dying, but to enable him to use more of his powers. Also, wasn't he only in such a weakened state because he was missing his horns?

    It's been a while since I've read the manga, so sorry. >__>

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    I'm pretty sure Chrno died while fighting with Aion, and Rosette died years later - at the end of her already-depleted life span. She saw Chrno at the end because she also died, not because he ever visited her.

    I think Kaom's right about the contract; it gave him power, not life. It cost HER life. (Undoing the contract only stopped her life from being stolen even more; she can't regain what she already lost.)
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    chrno lived. rosette died. the end. something like that ^^

    I haven't seen the ending for a long time but I'll reread it later. from what I can remember Chrno got his horn back (Joshua ripped it off and gave them to Rosette) Chrno made a promise to Rosette that they'll see each other again and they did. At the last few seconds that Rosette had. Chrno showed up in front of the church and they both run to each other arms. anyway Chrno died(?) later. In the official records of the magdalena order (Azmaria was narrating) he was executed at ??? year (I forgot) but they never showed what happened to him or his remains (They might be protecting/hiding him)

    as soon as I find the last volume of Chrno crusade and I'll reread and post it here.

    well, but azmaria sais in the end "....maybe even tommorrow that she..."
    dies or what????
    she meant that Rosette could die at any moment but through sheer will power she lived longer than anyone could have predicted. ^______^

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Vincent_ View Post
    anyway Chrno died(?) later. In the official records of the magdalena order (Azmaria was narrating) he was executed at ??? year (I forgot) but they never showed what happened to him or his remains (They might be protecting/hiding him)

    as soon as I find the last volume of Chrno crusade and I'll reread and post it here.
    Really?! I don't remember this, so please post it if you find it. Why didn't he find her sooner, though? He was known in the Order, it's not like he couldn't have tracked her down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent
    Chrno made a promise to Rosette that they'll see each other again and they did. At the last few seconds that Rosette had. Chrno showed up in front of the church and they both run to each other arms.
    I think what Digi does:

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    I'm pretty sure Chrno died while fighting with Aion, and Rosette died years later - at the end of her already-depleted life span. She saw Chrno at the end because she also died, not because he ever visited her.
    Honestly, I thought she was just seeing things. Her life was ending, and she wanted so badly to see Chrno one last time that she did, but not because he was actually there. I pretty much got the impression that, compared to her time with Chrno, everything else in her life paled. I thought his appearance, right at the end, was a way to show that...she wanted to see him so badly that she imagined it. Alternatively, do they ever show anyone finding her body? While reading it another thought I had was that she could have died sitting right in that pew, and everything after that, walking toward the church exit (into the light...>__>) and Chrno was her moving on (her spirit moving on, I guess). Or she did make it down that aisle, and the part about Chrno being there was a figment of her imagination: there could have been no one, or it could have been someone else entirely, and she just saw them as Chrno because that's who she wanted it to be. She did know she was dying, I remember her giving herself a pep-talk of sorts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent
    she meant that Rosette could die at any moment but through sheer will power she lived longer than anyone could have predicted. ^______^
    Agreed!

    P.S. I forgot to welcome you to the forums, Kiina, so welcome. ^__^

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaom View Post
    Really?! I don't remember this, so please post it if you find it. Why didn't he find her sooner, though? He was known in the Order, it's not like he couldn't have tracked her down.
    It was at the part when Satella was finally awake. She was finally catching up with everything and they told her some details when she was in the car going to Rosette's grave. This is one of those things that they've mentioned.
    Honestly, I thought she was just seeing things. Her life was ending, and she wanted so badly to see Chrno one last time that she did, but not because he was actually there. I pretty much got the impression that, compared to her time with Chrno, everything else in her life paled. I thought his appearance, right at the end, was a way to show that...she wanted to see him so badly that she imagined it. Alternatively, do they ever show anyone finding her body? While reading it another thought I had was that she could have died sitting right in that pew, and everything after that, walking toward the church exit (into the light...>__>) and Chrno was her moving on (her spirit moving on, I guess). Or she did make it down that aisle, and the part about Chrno being there was a figment of her imagination: there could have been no one, or it could have been someone else entirely, and she just saw them as Chrno because that's who she wanted it to be. She did know she was dying, I remember her giving herself a pep-talk of sorts.
    you have a point there. she might be hallucinating because she wanted to see Chrno so much but we don't have any kind of exact proof of what really happened. Rosette was alone at that time.

    I'm still clinging to idea that Chrno showed up though. He showed up covered in bandages. The reason that he was late .... well maybe because the Magdalene Order was hunting him down. It did say in the record that they executed him (I finally reread it but I can't bring the manga to work so I can't write the exact words). He was on the run and the only chance that he got to see Rossette again was when she was alone in the church.

    all in all. hallucination or not. Rosette was happy in her final moments. ^^

    .... I still prefer the idea that it wasn't a hallucination LOL! ^ o ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Vincent_ View Post
    all in all. hallucination or not. Rosette was happy in her final moments. ^^

    .... I still prefer the idea that it wasn't a hallucination LOL! ^ o ^
    that's exactly how I think too.
    Rosette's life has allways been way too hard so I wish her it wasn't just an hallucination.
    Besides it's more romantic this way ^^

    I think the "execution" meant in the records referred to the fight between Chrno and Remington. As far as I rember he was ordered to execute Chrno.

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    I believe that Chrno is still alive in the modern world. Though not explicit proof, the fact that flowers are placed on her grave on the anniversary of her death every year (even though the location of the grave was not mentioned in her will). As it is, It would appear that Chrno would not age in appearance either because of...

    1) The Mary Magdalene took place 50 years before Rosette met Chrno and
    2) That Fi (The intelligent cat-like demon) is also present in the final chapter (before the epilogue) and has not aged in appearance either despite the time difference of the incident.

    As I said, though not significant proof of him being alive, this creates the idea that he can still be.

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