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    Quote Originally Posted by hacman View Post
    im not sure if this 100% counts but i didn't really like the ending for Zoids: the new century or whatever it was.
    Ya i would say it counts. I think Zoids is as much of an anime as DBZ is. Of corse it brings up the ever hard problem of defining what an anime is.

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    This is a sadly common problem. Animes usually get their story lines from somewhere else (historically a manga, now possibly a light novel or a game/vnovel). So you have two people who can ruin the story: the mangaka/story author, and the script writer for the show. Murphy's law applies here: the more ways you can mess it up, the more often it'll be messed up. Especially when the people doing the anime may have no respect for the source material.

    Sometimes the show improves on the manga by cleaning up/dropping story arcs that don't go anywhere or detract from the plot. Sometimes the show mangles the story out of recognition.

    Another problem is hurry: Of the three big shoujo/josei romance manga of recent years (Fruits Basket, Kare Kano, and Honey and Clover) only Honey and Clover got a fair treatment in anime, because the other two stories were optioned for anime long before the story of the manga was well developed. Without the mostly-complete manga as a guide, bad things tend to happen:

    There is a sudden ending in the middle of the plot, or the anime people make stuff up as they go along (which usually isn't good, because they don't get the characters as well as the mangaka who created them), or the mangaka fabricates a different short story arc that may make a decent anime, but has no relation to most of what is going on in the manga (Akira, Karin, Mahoraba).

    The corollary to this is: the shorter the run of the manga to completion, the less likely it'll be butchered by the anime people, both because the plot is simpler, and it likely will be picked up by a studio later in the manga plot cycle. Sure enough, Midori no Hibi (8 volumes) does pretty well. Fruits basket...not so much.

    I've seen so much stuff mangled over the years. Often I'd run across the manga *after* seeing the butchered anime and discover I actually liked the story... Recently, I'd have to say the most disappointing one for me was Mahoraba, because the manga is so carefully written, with entertaining characters and interesting situations. The anime stripped out a lot of the emotional depth and added more slapstick (to make it more kid-friendly) and tacked on a hurried, nonsensical ending. Likewise, the whole Winner-kun plot in Karin doesn't even exist in the manga, which should tell you something.

    On the other hand, you've got material like Appleseed, GiTS, Planetes, etc. If it's a heavy, technical with a lot of complex visual content, it probably wins a lot from being made into an anime - why spend four pages of small print describing something (yes, I'm talking about Masamune Shirow) when you can just show it doing its thing? Did anybody ever anime Zetman? It'd be good (if nasty), just like Video Girl Ai was.
    Last edited by senile_seinen; 03-06-2007 at 08:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Neon. Genesis. Evangelion.

    The most disappointing ending in the history of worldwide television. They did redeem themselves pretty damn well with Death & Rebirth though

    You need to read REtake, it the best doujin that I've ever read. Parts of it is even better than the real story (before the ending).

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    (awh stricken) Wow Senile Seinen you shure did say a mouthfull though you do give some good insite. I liked the Mahoraba anime and if you are saying that the manga is even better i got to check it out. Do you know where i can find that manga?

    Ok back on topic another anime that had a dissapointing ending was King of Bandit Jing. It was a really good anime but it was way too short. It had so much more potential but they just cut it off. It left me so unsatisfied and craving for more

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    Why has no one mentioned...

    DEATH NOTE.

    Zettai Kareshi had a bad ending too, in my opinion. The Karin anime ending was... okay, not great, but okay. Mostly the two mentioned above. I know a couple of manga that just ended at a random point - Urusei Yatsura, Nanaki, A Thousand Years of Snow - and so I can't say they really had endings. Good manga, though.

    *cough* I repeat. Death Note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Why has no one mentioned...

    DEATH NOTE.

    Zettai Kareshi had a bad ending too, in my opinion. The Karin anime ending was... okay, not great, but okay. Mostly the two mentioned above. I know a couple of manga that just ended at a random point - Urusei Yatsura, Nanaki, A Thousand Years of Snow - and so I can't say they really had endings. Good manga, though.

    *cough* I repeat. Death Note.
    Ugh yeah Death Note. I seriously wonder what was the point of showing us the character, personality and everything of the main character and make him do sth so uncharacteristic in the end.

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    Well, not if he was controlled like someone (Cooler) proposed in the subforum, but it still shocked and sucked. (It could be worse. I read Wuthering Heights for school and... *shudder* Thankfully, I have yet to see a good manga pull off something like that.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Why has no one mentioned...

    DEATH NOTE.

    Zettai Kareshi had a bad ending too, in my opinion. The Karin anime ending was... okay, not great, but okay. Mostly the two mentioned above. I know a couple of manga that just ended at a random point - Urusei Yatsura, Nanaki, A Thousand Years of Snow - and so I can't say they really had endings. Good manga, though.

    *cough* I repeat. Death Note.
    Well, to be fair, the manga jumped the shark with the reload, so there wasn't much they could do. Death Note just goes on too long, that's all.

    The last show in Karin should have been two shows. There were at least three good cliffhanger points in there. If the vamps had been lying around with stakes in them for longer it really would have worked better. This is another one, though, where I like the manga lots better - more character complexity, and frankly lots better stories. Hanaji-Scans is doing a good job on it.

    Yes, the Mahoraba manga is probably my most eagerly anticipated release every month. Hiyoko no Gao is doing the scanslation, and you can find them over at Mangaforums.org. The whole thing's available via bittorrent, and is probably on IRC as well. Magaupdates tracks their releases.
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    Robotech

    Probably most of you have never even heard of this very old anime never less seen it. The first 2 seasons of it were very good but then after the first 2 seasons it got cornier and cornier with each procedding season ending in a really lame ending

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    that's a very good analysis senile seinen !

    bu yah, it was probably why i didn't like the FMA anime, 'cause it deviated too much from the manga..

    i agree with EVA and Death Note endings being letdown (seriously, the anime EVA ending was completely messed. the movie ending was even more so). i'm surprised no one mentioned Hikaru no Go yet. that was disappointing as well

 

 
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