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    uiui is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    can someoen tell me what chapter/volume zodd and that skull knight dude fought? i stopped reading and wanna get back on it but them squaring off was the closest thing i remember

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    Depends on when they were fighting I remember two fights. The first one was at the eclipse which was the first chapter of vol 13 the second was in front of the witch's house vol 26 ch224.

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    Both fights were rather brief, unfortunately. I'd like to see a full duel between those two.

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    zodd and gutts are about level in terms of strength imo. and i'm willing to bet that the skull knight is stronger than gutts; so the skull knight would probably pwn zodd.

    btw has the skull knight been named yet?
    (i don't think he has...)

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    Well he doesnt have a name now but I think before he was named Gaiseric(tha was th name of the emperor with the skull armor they talked about when saving Griffith) or something like that.

    Yes the Skull Knight is one of my favorite characters in Berserk. I would love to see a longer duel between him and Zodd and then maybe a duel with Gutts after 10 volumes.

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    Yeah theres been a lot of stuff pointing to that both the skull armour, the corpses with the brand at the bottom of the tower and the way Slaan, I believe her name is, called him your majesty. There most definently is a link between Gaeseric, Void and Skull Knight and I hope we get to find out what it is.

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    Have you read a theory about how they are all connected? I've read on on the Mindwerks forum, and I remember Cooler posting up one this site once, before the recent nuke that is.

    Ill try and find it again, sounds very plausible.

    Quote Originally Posted by haybusa
    zodd and gutts are about level in terms of strength imo.
    I think not, Zodd greatly overpowers Gutts. Its Gutts fighting ability (which is probably on par, possibly even greater than Zodd's), and tools that get him through the fights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetnubis View Post
    Have you read a theory about how they are all connected? I've read on on the Mindwerks forum, and I remember Cooler posting up one this site once, before the recent nuke that is.

    Ill try and find it again, sounds very plausible.



    I think not, Zodd greatly overpowers Gutts. Its Gutts fighting ability (which is probably on par, possibly even greater than Zodd's), and tools that get him through the fights.
    i haven`t but i presume it has sth to do with the skull knight being that former king in legends with the skull armor

    and the many branded bodies in the bottom of the tower where griffith was held and tortured

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    From that we can pretty much assume that Void and Skull Knight are connected to Geaseric. I recently wondered what with Geaseric wearing a skull mask all the time apparently, if both Skull Knight and Void were Geaseric at different points. Such as in the actual battles Skull Knight would be Geaseric but in other situations Void would be. Then we have the whole ceremony of the eclipse where Void is born and Skull Knight somehow survives as seems to be indicated by what the witch in the forest and Zodd have said. The only reason I thought of that was when I reread the manga recently I was thinking that in most cases the transformation to apostle/godhand seems to be a monstrous version of what they feel they are inside, Griffith/Femto and Roshinu being prime examples. Void has a skull for a face like Geaseric's mask, the rather large exposed brain usually implies great intelligence but looking at his body it seems weak and frail he also doesn't fight physically but by warping time and space kind of like Raganzi (sp) in Vampire Hunter D. This suggests to me in life he wasn't a fighter but a thinker/planner whereas Skull Knight seems to have been a fighter, I'm probably wrong but what the hell eh.

    Edit: I agree with you about Gutts by the way, he is roughly equal to Zodd's human form, which is no small feat but so far has been overpowered by his apostle form. Of course we have no idea how the Berserker armour will affect that and it will be interesting to see. Gotta love their brief teamup against the Emperor, as far as I'm concerned the scariest teamup in manga ever. Just imagine seeing Zodd come flying at you with Gutts on his back, instant prolapse time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haybusa View Post
    zodd and gutts are about level in terms of strength imo. and i'm willing to bet that the skull knight is stronger than gutts; so the skull knight would probably pwn zodd.

    btw has the skull knight been named yet?
    (i don't think he has...)
    Zodd is far beyond Guts. Guts is almost as strong as Zodd in his human form, but once Zodd transforms, it's over. We don't know how the Berserk armor changes things, though.

    Skull Knight is slightly stronger than Zodd, I believe.

    Regarding Skull Knight, Void, and Gaiseric...I posted a huge post about the history of Berserk, but it died during the nuke. I'll summarize it, though:

    There are two basic theories. Both revolve around the idea of King Gaiseric and the Wise Man/Magician. In the first, and most commonly accepted, Gaiseric is Skull Knight. He united the kingdoms and created his empire (he appears to be modeled on Alexander the Great, I believe), but ended up dying, and his empire crumbled. What happened is pure guesswork, but here's my best estimation. The Wise Man was incarcerated in the Tower. He had the Egg of the Emperor, and at some point, he activated it. He sacrificed Gaiseric's kingdom, or at the very least a large number of the people around the Tower, and he became Void. Gaiseric went on a quest similar to that of Guts, and tried to save his kingdom. He ultimately ended up fighting while wearing the Berserk armor until it ate him alive, and, through Flora's magic, he became the Skull Knight.

    Causality is a spiral. Guts and Griffith mirror Gaiseric and the Magician. Given the nature of Causality, we can also assume that it's likely that, one thousand years before the birth of Void, another such conflict took place, and another Berserker fought against the Godhand, just as Skull Knight and Guts do. We don't know how many times this cycle has played out, but we do know how it ends: The Struggler dies but fights on, and the original four Godhand members are destroyed, leaving the fifth as the new leader. If the spiral continues, Guts and the Skull Knight will destroy Void, Conrad, Ubrik, and Slan, but Guts will die before he can take down Griffith. He'll kill him a thousand years later, when he is the new Skull Knight. I can only assume that the existing Skull Knight dies for good during the battle with the Godhand.

    I suspect this cycle can be broken, though, and I think Casca is the reason. She is what will prevent Guts from giving himself over entirely to his revenge. Because of her, the spiral will end.

    That was a huge guess, for the record. We have no real indication that any of that is true, and I articulated the idea rather poorly. Still, I believe that is true.

    The other theory is that the roles were reversed-Void is Gaiseric and the Skull Knight is the magician. I'm not inclined to believe that one, though.

 

 
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