Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12
  1. #1
    death incarnate is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    pg county
    Posts
    1,333

    Default kage bunshin vs. clones

    what's the difference between these two? i mean they seem pretty similar to me except that cloning seems easier (because kaede can easily surpass kotaro's kage bunshin limit) but the more you make the less density each one has whereas kage bunshin are real bodies. i really don't understand the difference between the two. does anyone here know?

  2. #2
    Heartlessfang is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    The heart of all worlds
    Posts
    840

    Default

    lol I almost mistook you for a newb that posted in the wrong thread.I was like "WTF a NARUTO thread HERE!!??". No it really isn't explained. They're just ninja techniques that they use.

    "You have other hearts trapped within you as well, dont you?"
    "You're that guy from last time! What are you talking about?!"
    "The other Hearts within you."
    "Hearts trapped within me....?"

  3. #3
    xxsaznpride is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Cali
    Posts
    1,480

    Default

    Kaede's just stronger than Kotarou. I don't think her clone limit is higher specifically because clones are "easier" to do.

    On top of that, Kotarou likely only uses the kage bunshin because he already has somewhat of a knack for using shadow techniques (I'm pretty sure his dog summon things are taken from shadows, right, cus that's what I'm basing this on).
    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarST
    And your name's annoying to type; from now on you're sazny.
    Farleen // Number 42

  4. #4
    Big-B is offline Junior Member Newbie
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    8

    Default

    Uwaa...h!!! Now since you mentioned it, I don't know the difference between those two!!!

    Btw, you mean kage bunshin just some kind of shadow techniques? and how about clones? What kind of technique is that?

    About Kaede, did you mean since Kaede stronger than Kotaro, it doesn't matter what techniques is, she still overpower Kotaro? And because clones are 'easier' to do she only(?) use that???

  5. #5
    death incarnate is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    pg county
    Posts
    1,333

    Default

    i guess it could be classified as a shadow technique since all of kotaro's other moves like his dog summons but that would be going into a completely different discussion. so far i've realized that kotaro's kage bunshins kind of suck, usually they all get wiped out in a one powerful hit. clones however seems to be that the more you make the less dense they get and the less power they have but they can also take several hits. i wonder if you can combine both techniques and have a whole shitload of kotaros.

  6. #6
    BlueDo is offline Senior Member Well Known
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Blue Falcon
    Posts
    359

    Default

    I was gone for 3 days...

    Let's put it simply.
    Well, it's just like Naruto.

    On a page, Kotarou explained that clones (bunshins) [s]are just illusions. [/s](although it's never been explained in Negima how illusion works)
    *EDIT: I remember more clearly now, he said it results from moving really fast. (delusional much?)
    Kage bunshins are material partners that fight alongside you.
    The "shadow" in the name has nothing to do with Kotarou's Inugami power.

    Note:
    Truth is, I never remember anyone using a clone. It's probably just too impractical, or it's harder to do than Kage Bunshin... 0_o
    Fate has used a watery "illusion" image of himself, but that's different.
    Last edited by BlueDo; 10-01-2008 at 07:36 PM.

  7. #7
    xxsaznpride is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Cali
    Posts
    1,480

    Default

    Fate's water "illusion" was capable of casting a barrier-breaking lance of stone. Kaede's clones are capable of using her ninja techniques (the barrier breakers, those giant fireball things). No idea about Kotarou's, but I haven't seen any overly magic-based techniques from him or anything to begin with.

    Oh... and Kaede's clones (which clone = bunshin translation-wise btw) are an "Eastern mystery". God knows what that means.

    @Big-B: I'm pretty damn sure that Kaede's stronger than Negi... not really sure about now because he's got the Magia Erebea in his arsenal. She kicked Kotarou's ass pretty handily (the argument can be made that he wasn't 100% because Kaede's a she, but still), and at the very least, you wouldn't learn things from people who are weaker than you (like how Kotarou is now able to do clones in the same fashion as Kaede).
    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarST
    And your name's annoying to type; from now on you're sazny.
    Farleen // Number 42

  8. #8
    rodavlas is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Get a GPS and look for me there...
    Posts
    750

    Default

    lol.. I thought this thread was gonna be about Negi's clones all the way from the Eva arc VS Kage Bunshin...

    but yeah.. I'd say the East wins on that one...

  9. #9
    flannan is offline Senior Member Respected Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    403

    Default

    I've always thought that Kaede and Kotarou use the same ninja techniques. Just Kaede is better in it (it is her speciality, and she's older). And in Negima, it seems, one has control whether one's kage bunshin partners are exactly as powerful as the ninja, or they are lesser versions of him (that is described as density by those trying to tell them apart).

    Fate probably operates through proxy bodies all the time, while his real body is hidden somewhere. Kind of like Albireo Imma (aka Colonel Sanders) did.

  10. #10
    Weimario-kun is offline Senior Member Well Known
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    374

    Default

    I doubt Fate even has a 'real' body. His little boast about not having need training (did someone just hand him power on a silver plate?) make me wonder if he is actually a construct whose AI can shift to replacement body units. I can only guess.
    "You are a 100 years too early to argue logically with ME......"

 

 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
vBulletin Skin by: ForumThemes.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0
Copyright © 2014 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162