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    hinagikukatsura is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    I agree with Atrum also the fact that she's able to use the spell patterns on her body means she's capable of using magic. It's like an intact wand or something like that. Well it's true that what your ancestors are doesnt tell who you are but Chao definitely enherited Negi's potentials, it's just that she chose to concentrate on science more. About the magic tree... it doesn't give such a power but rather just support like a magic storage thingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    The magic tree wouldn't give such an insane boost. Yue was able to cast simple magic thanks to that. The marks are similar Negi's, the point we're getting at is, that is a technique.

    Anyway, it's interesting how you think that a line of powerful magicians would just stop. What made you think she wouldn't be a magician? Tell me why she isn't a magician.

    Lol, i never said it stopped but u have to learn what Dilution means.If Chao was that great of a mage to begin with, she would never have needed the magic runes, and if she needed the magic runes it means springfield blood was being diluted over the ages.

    And you are severely downplaying how much power those runes are giving her.Did u even look at the hyperlinks and evidence i gave you. Looks at Negi''s reactions and what his comments are about those runes. I already proved what i said already from the links i gave.

    Reasons i don't consider her a REAL mage

    1.She never used anything to cast magic, until she activated the magic patterns made by science.

    2.Mages can naturally collect magic externally a direct opposite of ki, Chao uses the spell pattern imprinted on her body in order to siphon the magic power from the world tree during the festival arc.

    3.Even though she might have magic, she doesnt' have enough command of it to be considered a real mage because no other evidence currently available will prove it.

    4.Even yue can use a bit of magic, but can u truely call her a real mage during the festival arc? Apprentice or in training maybe.

    5.Simply put thiers a lack of evidence that supports her being a real mage, the only evidence avaliable only comes when her spell pattern was released.

    6.Even negi himeself admit the spell pattern to be insane, and paraphrasing also unnatural.

    Quote Originally Posted by hinagikukatsura View Post
    I agree with Atrum also the fact that she's able to use the spell patterns on her body means she's capable of using magic. It's like an intact wand or something like that. Well it's true that what your ancestors are doesnt tell who you are but Chao definitely enherited Negi's potentials, it's just that she chose to concentrate on science more. About the magic tree... it doesn't give such a power but rather just support like a magic storage thingy.
    Check this link and read what Negi says about the runes inscribed on her body, that pretty much proves my point on how powerful those runes are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinker View Post
    Lol, i never said it stopped but u have to learn what Dilution means.If Chao was that great of a mage to begin with, she would never have needed the magic runes, and if she needed the magic runes it means springfield blood was being diluted over the ages.

    And you are severely downplaying how much power those runes are giving her.Did u even look at the hyperlinks and evidence i gave you. Looks at Negi''s reactions and what his comments are about those runes. I already proved what i said already from the links i gave.
    From Chao and Negi's reaction in their conversation before she left, the marks were forced on her. Also, I don't think blood gets diluted over the years, Negi seems to be almost as powerful as Nagi (still needs to be more idiotic). It's like genetics, either you get it or you don't, but this seems to be dominant.

    Quote Originally Posted by sinker View Post
    1.She never used anything to cast magic, until she activated the magic patterns made by science.
    Neither does Evangeline.

    Quote Originally Posted by sinker View Post
    2.Mages can naturally collect magic externally a direct opposite of ki, Chao uses the spell pattern imprinted on her body in order to siphon the magic power from the world tree during the festival arc.
    Who says it's the tree supplying it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    From Chao and Negi's reaction in their conversation before she left, the marks were forced on her. Also, I don't think blood gets diluted over the years, Negi seems to be almost as powerful as Nagi (still needs to be more idiotic). It's like genetics, either you get it or you don't, but this seems to be dominant.
    i meant after getting remarried and giveing birth, if u keep marrying people who has no magic,then give birth to a baby who also marries somone else with little or no magic power.Obviously won't be as strong as the past.


    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    Neither does Evangeline.
    She never needed the spell pattern to use magic.


    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    Who says it's the tree supplying it?
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    Chao herself says she using the trees magic power in that picture on the left.
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    I agree more with Atrum's point on the genetics of magic inheritance. As far as has been revealed, Eishun was a user of Ki more than magic, but he somehow gave birth to a daughter with potential to surpass the power of the Thousand Master.

    Mages = people who use magic.
    Chao uses magic.
    Chao = Mage.

    That and, if she had no magical training whatsoever, how was she able to throw the Blazing Fire in the Sky at Negi, a spell he acknowledges as one being more powerful than anything he had mastery of at the time? By your logic, she'd have to be a mage-in-training at the very least.
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    I think the point is that runes or no, Chao had to have an understanding of using magic in order to use those spells. Just knowing the incantation without knowing how to channel the spells wouldn't produce an effect.

    On top of that, knowing that Chao places a lot of faith in her science abilities and arrogance would make her use magic as a last resort like that. I mean with the Cassiopeia she already had an almost guaranteed win against anyone until negi figured out its other use. Why should she have used magic against negi when negi was already a better magic user in the first place?

    I think those runes just boosted her magic power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinker View Post
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    Chao herself says she using the trees magic power in that picture on the left.
    When she said she used the tree's magic, that was for using the Cassiopeia, whereas when Negi used it, he supplied it with his own magical energy.

    She even said said "unlike me, he used his own magic for the Cassiopeia".

    @ xxxsaznpride, good point there.

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    What about this, Chao practiced using magic while having the patterns on her body.
    So she knows how to comjure up spells.

    This would make her a mage, regardless of unfair supports or lack of experiences.

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    She just used the World Tree t boost her power unlike Negi who used his strength and Cassiopeia but it doesn't mean that she has to rely on it to use magic. Yes I'm aware that those runes are powerful but I stick to my stand that they're just tools, like wands or staffs, to cast magic better. It's just that those runes are like double edge swords that hurt both the caster and receiver. She just uses those tatoos to her advantage but that doesn't mean that she's a fake.

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    Rastel My Magick Skir Magister...
    anyone getting reminded by that key spell pattern? : l

    and she may have a diluted Springfield blood but she still IS a Springfield... and magic runs in their bloods even if they wanted to or not...

    of course, with Chao's genius mind inherited from Negi... she'd study them and stuff..

    I mean, how the heck can she even activate Cassiopeia without magic anyway?

 

 
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