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    I understand a TL's work is seldom perfect, that's why groups like AQS usually have a proofreader. Unless he's drunk on margaritas too

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueB View Post
    Aquastar Anime just published their scanlation of chapter 208. The real one this time. You can get it at their website.
    Overall a slightly better translation than the one from Franky House, though I prefer FH's edit.

    But... "Your original landscape" ?
    Perhaps Evangeline meant the landscape they fought over. It was definitely taken from Negi's memories. When Negi went berserk, it changed to his burning hometown, it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy80 View Post
    Yeah, I saw that too, "original landscape". I suppose it made sense at the time.
    In AQS's defense their lead TL is on vacation so I suppose he either a) rushed to do it before he left, b) did it drunk while on vacation or c) let the 'apprentice' (for lack of a better word) TL do it this week.

    *Edit*
    I took a look at the editing. To me it looks like Franky used some heavy levels and maybe took the blur tool to it (the grids/screens didn't stand out as much as they do when I try leveling the picture) and then used the pen or pencil tool to cover the dirt on the pitch black. The only thing I though was a little off was how the lost some of their midtones (probably from the leveling, check Eva's skirt on page 7).
    AQS did alright with the levels (they still have nice midtones), but they left a lot of dirt behind which kind of spoils it. It wouldn't have been so apparent if they had cleaned up outside the frames like Franky.
    So I have to say Franky wins for editing(sigh), but the raw was so rough and full of dirt that either one's pretty good considering.
    Thats my commentary on editing though take it with a grain of salt because I'm still a Photoshop noob.
    ps: I don't care if you care I learnt something from writing this.
    You'll find that alot, editors make the blacks black and the whites white, but then have trouble with the midtones or just forget about them completely. It doesn't help that most people don't know what 50% grey is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy80 View Post
    So I have to say Franky wins for editing(...)
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    http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1340/fhproffd4.png
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    http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/9461/aqsproftm7.png
    Sorry, but I'll never accept that FH's editing is better just because they clean the raw... and when I say "clean", I wanted to say "Put some blur on the page". This is ridiculous.
    Last edited by 98abaile; 04-05-2008 at 12:53 AM.

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    Okay, this is going into a "why an apple is better than a banana" kind of argument. It's all a matter of tastes.

    Personally I'm okay with a loss of details if it means it doesn't hurt my eyes so much. But then again, both scanlators were working from horribly grainy magazine raws; if someone did that kind of edit from a tankubon, I'd be the first to crucify them.

    Like I said, a matter of tastes.

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    I just posted the images to show that FH didn't rebuild Negi's hair correctly. ;/

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaZZioS View Post
    FH
    http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1340/fhproffd4.png
    AQS
    http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/9461/aqsproftm7.png
    Sorry, but I'll never accept that FH's editing is better just because they clean the raw... and when I say "clean", I wanted to say "Put some blur on the page". This is ridiculous.
    Good point, although if they took the time to rebuild pages, we'd never get them so fast.

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    Yeah, I'll agree that Franky will never produce a rebuild job that is as good as AQS and maybe I'd have been better off saying cleaning instead of editing. However, if you produce perfect rebuilds but your scan still looks dirty as hell, the end product will not show the time, skill and care put into it. It will look half done.
    It's just like significant digits. No matter how accurate your calculation is and how many digits you, keep if your measurements or initial values are off then your answer is off.
    That doesn't change no matter how much we like one group over another.

    ps: Editor from AQS says "grainy > blurry but we're working on it"
    Last edited by Quincy80; 04-05-2008 at 03:40 PM.

 

 
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