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    they're probably helping the human world because it is easier. a mage with magical powers is easier to help a world without than a world that has magical powers. mostly because the there are people who would misuse magical powers (that a whole bunch of other creatures that can do the same thing). plus the medicine can't be a placebo because you have to be conscious that you are taking it to work, plus she got better in a short amount of time with a really high fever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun View Post
    First off a bad law doesn't ignore the fact that its law. If its law that slaves are allowed and registered. You or I may not agree with slavery, but we don't make the magic world laws do we? Do you expect negi to justify everything he does as right (even breaking a local law) as long as it is against a 'bad' thing?
    Well, yes. It's a logical next step in becoming evil. After all, he is an apprentice of an evil mage. He has already gone past the point where he tries to be good for everyone during the tournament.


    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun View Post
    Plus laws in such remote 'lawless' places are more or less enforced by way of the 'bounties' if you haven't noticed. Bounties hunters exist here if you haven't forgotten. They hunt down bounties outside the law's areas of juristiction. Fleeing does not mean you won't be hunted. If the slaver are wealthy enough, they could easily provide their own bounty post on Negi and co. (most likely as bad guys don't like be done over by ANYONE). At worse Negi will even get a bounty on his 15 y.o disguised self. The last thing he needs is unnecessary attention from ANYONE, especially the law (who will more likely arrest him than help him save slaves).
    If you haven't noticed, bounty hunters should already be after Negi. So he'll have to beat them anyway, what won't give him much trouble. After all, Evangeline was defeating them for hundreds of years. It will give him a good portion of battle experience.
    And once Negi has cleaned his younger self, he won't need to change into the old one, so it's not a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun View Post
    Lastly, what exactly are you saying in that last two sentences? It doesn't make sense. I think its pretty obvious to the girls that they ARE in a magic world by looking around and seeing all the NONHUMANS. Revealing? How can the slavers reveal what it isn't already obvious? Plus the law will definately punish the girls than the slaves for keeping non-magic world citizens. Do you know what 'fugitive' means? The girls came to Magic world without the proper authority and documentations. All the slavers will get are a slap on the wrist or nothing at all since Ako and co. are registers as slaves "DUE TO DEBT". Ako on the otherhand will most likely be apprehended and the last people Negi will want to deal with to release Ako is the law.
    There are not only girls. There are their parents and relatives. Who will go to great lengths to find their beloved children. According to the magic concealing laws, mages have to wipe girls' memories and send them back. But instead, the slavers are withholding the girls for a number of years.

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    Wow. You guys are talking this waaay too seriously.

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    arguments are always good , otherwise the forums might become a bit boring.
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    this actually proves that these guys really love Negima... lulz...

    anyway... a new RAW chappie is up at the RAW section...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpinet View Post
    If their laws have any sence of decency / humanity in them if Negi can prove that the "Debt" was under false pretences the slavers will more then likely be at fault and held responsible.
    Must I remind you that the last people Negi want attention from AT THE MOMENT is the law! Even with the age pill disguise, undue attention with the law will only get him into more trouble. It'll fool the average observer but even the age difference won't disguise his resemblence to Nagi. He already let spill to Vargas that his father is 1000 master Nagi. If the law gets wind of this and knowing that our 300k bounty mage kid is Nagi's son, they'll be sure to look out for Nagi look-a-likes.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdpinet View Post
    I still think Negi should still ruff them up, they are defenetly the scum of the magic world getting their kicks out of bullying their own slaves.
    It'll come to that eventually depending on how far the slavers take this issue but I don't think those 3 assaulting Ako in 194 were the slavers themselves. More likely associates.

    Quote Originally Posted by flannan View Post
    Well, yes. It's a logical next step in becoming evil. After all, he is an apprentice of an evil mage. He has already gone past the point where he tries to be good for everyone during the tournament..
    Oh sure, Negi is sick of being good and turns evil. Yeah, great. If there were any doubt to his guilt on the gate incident, then becoming a full fledge criminal will further smooth out the path on his quest (read sarcasm). I don't really see the logic in Negi trying to make the law and bounty hunters hunt him even more zealously than they already do.


    Quote Originally Posted by flannan View Post
    If you haven't noticed, bounty hunters should already be after Negi. So he'll have to beat them anyway, what won't give him much trouble. After all, Evangeline was defeating them for hundreds of years. It will give him a good portion of battle experience.
    And once Negi has cleaned his younger self, he won't need to change into the old one, so it's not a problem.
    You probably think that Vargas is the cream of the crop on the list of most powerful wizards around. How zealous (and even how powerful) the hunters are which go after Negi is proportional to his bounty reward. Unless absolutely unavoidable, Negi will not want to make things even more difficult for himself by racking up a bad reputation. You think that all Negi has to do is beat up hunters. Keep doing that and expect a Dead or Alive tag on his bounty. Sooner or later Negi won't be fighting for experience, it'll be his life at stake. Its not an rpg game they are playing here. Powerful does not equal invulnerable.

    Quote Originally Posted by flannan View Post
    There are not only girls. There are their parents and relatives. Who will go to great lengths to find their beloved children. According to the magic concealing laws, mages have to wipe girls' memories and send them back. But instead, the slavers are withholding the girls for a number of years.
    If they didn't bother to check up on the girls' origins when registered as slaves, what makes you think they'll bother doing it later? The Law will probably punish the girls for illegal entry into the country first. Plus the interworld gates are destroyed. The girls will have to stay for as long as it takes for the gates to fix....which is not going to be anytime soon with Fate going around breaking those gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun View Post
    Oh sure, Negi is sick of being good and turns evil. Yeah, great. If there were any doubt to his guilt on the gate incident, then becoming a full fledge criminal will further smooth out the path on his quest (read sarcasm). I don't really see the logic in Negi trying to make the law and bounty hunters hunt him even more zealously than they already do.
    He'll do it gradually, one step at a time. And ignoring a letter of law is a nice step.


    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun View Post
    You probably think that Vargas is the cream of the crop on the list of most powerful wizards around. How zealous (and even how powerful) the hunters are which go after Negi is proportional to his bounty reward. Unless absolutely unavoidable, Negi will not want to make things even more difficult for himself by racking up a bad reputation. You think that all Negi has to do is beat up hunters. Keep doing that and expect a Dead or Alive tag on his bounty. Sooner or later Negi won't be fighting for experience, it'll be his life at stake. Its not an rpg game they are playing here. Powerful does not equal invulnerable.
    Bounties aren't the same as legal laws... they are to be put up by somebody. And those slavers won't be able to afford a really big price on Negi's head. Besides, should Negi's price rise dramatically, most hunters will avoid him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun View Post
    If they didn't bother to check up on the girls' origins when registered as slaves, what makes you think they'll bother doing it later? The Law will probably punish the girls for illegal entry into the country first. Plus the interworld gates are destroyed. The girls will have to stay for as long as it takes for the gates to fix....which is not going to be anytime soon with Fate going around breaking those gates.
    The fact the girls' background wasn't checked is a violation big enough already. Just shows how bad the law is working there. In any real country even if there was slavery, such a deal could not be made without a lot of paperwork, including detailed document examination.

    SPOILER


    Takamichi and Mana have just arrived. So the gates must be functional already. That makes me wonder why Fate even bothered breaking them.


    /SPOILER

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    nope the gates aren't functioning, TTT/mana made it into the gate before the link to the other world was severed.
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    Yeah but you are arguing over slavery and outlaws? Who gives a shit it's barely related to the story, or atleast it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    Yeah but you are arguing over slavery and outlaws? Who gives a shit it's barely related to the story, or atleast it will be.
    There's a 15 page long "who's to be Negi's wife" tread, and nothing in there has much relation to manga. So why can't we debate on the recent events?
    Besides, it's gonna be relevant to the story for at least a couple of chapters.

 

 
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