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    AtrumIncendia is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Yeah well, Asuna keeps remembering bits and pieces of memories, and as amnesia works, the whole entire memory comes back (like Jason Bourne in the Ultimatum, he remembers everything)

    Eva doesnt know about Negi's past, its Asuna they know. I believe they'll reveal on the Wales arc. SOmetime they enter the magic world, because she was a princess right? so if she gives them the name and some other information they might find her out.

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    Bourne didn't have the benefit of 10 to 20 volumes of manga to tell his story, he had around 2 hours to tell his past and end his story. Asuna however does, so I still think that it is highly unlikely that Asuna's past would be conveniently told as a whole to us on the Wales arc by some new character that pops out of the blue. That would be so anticlimatic.

    The comparison with Negi is because Negi's past is central to the story of the series and Negi's story wasn't purposefully hinted in bits and pieces. His story was told whenever it was convenient. In comparison, Akamatsu seems to be purposefully dropping bits and pieces of Asuna's past without giving us the whole picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parrywrinkle View Post
    Bourne didn't have the benefit of 10 to 20 volumes of manga to tell his story, he had around 2 hours to tell his past and end his story. Asuna however does.
    Well Bourne had over three years. My point is that she will in some time remember everything, either that or Alberio will tell her everything. Though I doubt that considering she is on her way to the Magic World, where she is known as a magical princess, so it will possibly be revealed to her at that time. That may be true, that the story may be just revealed as bits and pieces instead of one story, but that would be boring and avoiding many outcomes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    That may be true, that the story may be just revealed as bits and pieces instead of one story, but that would be boring and avoiding many outcomes.
    Do elaborate. To me, it's a question of style rather than content. "boring" and "avoiding many outcomes" seem to be opinions directed at the content.

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    well, if were all at the edge of findin out about asuna and her past right? so she goes to her home country, and then there is no connection with her to the magic country. they go there in the magic country, everyone there treats her as a regualr person (magical person), and then they leave. it would be more exciting and interesting if they make it so that people there in the magic country realize that she is the princess there, and negi and all her friends will be shocked, and w/e. it would just be interesting. jus like in stories, they tell u at the beginning that the person is really powerful and has lots of potential, u want other people to know it too.

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    Ok, heres my POV on the whole thing...

    One, There is nothing said that at the time of Asuna's Rescue from that temple thingy that It was part of the Mage Wars 20yrs ago, but more of that is was a while after, maybe a good time after at that...

    Two, If we are going to look at Takamachi's9 (sp?) age think of it this way, in Asuna's memory flash back after being hit on the head in the Budokai, we see Gatou and Takamachi with Asuna, whith Gatou dieing... Giving a guess at the ages by appearance I would say that Asuna is around 5 while Takamachi is around 17 or a bit up, seeing as he is still Teenager like.

    Three, most likely Nagi is around 24/5 at that time or so, as some artists give the young twenty year olds a younger look, not a hundred percent sure with Ken due to the fact there are not a lot of young adults in this book - Teens and older adults being the teachers.

    Four (relates with two), With Eva's comment that it took Takamachi years to develop the Kantar (Sp????) think of it this way if Asuna grew up with Class Rep and Konaka, she would be the same age while when she was 5 Takamachi was a teen, he now looks like he is in the late 30's or such, theres the years spent at the resort put to good use...

    Five, I do believe that Asuna is a special human and was being used for something to have need of rescue of a mass of deamons at the temple thingy where Nagi saved her. And that Ken is going to release some info on her during these up coming manga...

    Six... JUST SHOOT THAT DAMNABLE IDEA OF ASUNA BEING NEGI'S MUM DOWN WITH AN ATOMIC BOMB, That is the most stupidest Idea in the world... Well in my POV any way, I mean come on...
    And using Eva's love for Nagi as a point for that is just silly as you forget that Eva is over 100+ YEARS OLD of course she isn't going to have a crush on a ten year old (If you take Negi out of the way that is) and go for someone older, anyway Nagi pushes her away in the love department, Plus it would mainly be saviors love on Eva's side...

    Seven, There is a view from me that the way that her past is reveal is through memory regain, think about it, her memory was edited to take out Gatou so maybe it was edited so she would not remember being special so she could lead a normal life... And through Negi her memory is comeing back in dreams. But after her fight at the Budokai I reckon it will come back a little faster when you add in the training at Eva's to the mix...

    Eight, Well I had an Eight but there is something missing from my own memory to remember what that was, it had something to do about a point where Alberio tells Eva about Asuna, but I can't remember what it was exactly...

    Oh and you are all welcome to shoot down anything I have said, I mean this is only my POV...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    jus like in stories, they tell u at the beginning that the person is really powerful and has lots of potential, u want other people to know it too.
    sounds more cliché than interesting to me. I like the style Akamatsu is using now, where he lets us know enough to get a story going, plus a little more to keep us interested, but never sufficient so that we can see the big picture. It applies to almost every character so far: Evangeline, Sayo, Fate, Nagi, Negi, Asuna. There's far more realism in knowing a little of someone than the everything of someone, and then from that little that we know, to determine who that person is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parrywrinkle View Post
    sounds more cliché than interesting to me. I like the style Akamatsu is using now, where he lets us know enough to get a story going, plus a little more to keep us interested, but never sufficient so that we can see the big picture. It applies to almost every character so far: Evangeline, Sayo, Fate, Nagi, Negi, Asuna. There's far more realism in knowing a little of someone than the everything of someone, and then from that little that we know, to determine who that person is.
    wouldn't you want everyone to know that she has powers? why hide somone's ability?

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    I bet in the near future......

    Asuna discovers OF her past (does not remember it but is told of it), she will then reinforce her traveling to fing Nagi (not only for Negi but herself too) an there will be some Asuna X Negi scenes too (strengthening relatiioonship ka?)

    from there fragments of memories and others past experiences of here will piece the story together until she remembers in full where a full chapter (or more?) will be devoted to explaining it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    wouldn't you want everyone to know that she has powers? why hide somone's ability?
    If by "everyone" you are refering to the people around Asuna in the story, a good reason to not let Asuna know is because it is a dangerous ability.

    Remember what Wilhelm said? Not only is Magic Cancel a powerful ability, it also makes Asuna a very dangerous person. Magic Cancel makes Asuna the natural enemy of all magic users... at least when she learns how to use it.

    If you're the big bad guy who did bad things to Nagi and co, you'd have probably it to get to Asuna because of her Magic Cancel ability. Therefore Takamichi was instructed not to tell Asuna about her past until she is 18 or mature enough is because they (Takamichi, Nagi and co) wanted her to live a normal life... because to them the normal life is a life with happiness. So the plan was to let Asuna lead a happy life until she is mature enough to make a choice, then let her know of her history and let her make that choice: forget about the past and continue with her happiness or forgo her "normalness" and accept her history.

    If Asuna was used as a weapon, then she would probably be those weapons classified as "Secret" and only the top honchos would have access to those information regarding her because of her ability. And just like the information classified as "Secret" by your country's military, not just any Tom, Dick or Harry would have information about things like that. Thus it is doubtful that the moment she walks into Magic Country people would start pointing at her and whispering things to each other.

    If by "everyone" you are referring to the readers, we already know Asuna's Magic Cancel ability and natural talent at using Kanka. Finalising all her abilities by letting us know everything at a shot means no more surprise abilities or new ones later. So that's another reason why Akamatsu should not be eager to tell us of Asuna's complete history and abilities.

 

 
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