Thread: Possibly new Thousand Master theory

Here's a theory, maybe not a good one, but a theory nonetheless:

As we all know, Nagi is not dead (most likley). Perhaps he got fed up with the secrecy/bureaucracy of the 'Magic World' and decided to wage war with them in order to stop their heretical ways. So Nagi became an evil mastermind and took on a few capable followers. Fate, some other people from his past, maybe even Chao. Maybe Nagi even personally trained his followers so as to make his organization type thing less likely to be overthrown. I can pretty much guess the day he turned evil or so. It was probably the day he gave his staff to Negi. Seeing the destruction of that town probably made him snap. Which raises another question: Why was that town attacked by demons? Was it just random chance or was it planned? Is it just coincidence that THAT town just happened to be where there were a lot of Nagi supporters? some food for thought.

BS! -_-' I would say that, but that is a good theory. I would have never thought of that. That would make the perfect plot twist.

Well, given the amount of demons,it couldn't be a coincidence. That amount of demons would reqire a lot of mages to summon, even Konoka wouldn't be able to summon that much i think, as the mages of the village definetely are stronger then Negi and girls at the Kyoto arc, who wiped out all the 200 demons without too much of a trouble.

The problem is, were these demons specifically after Negi, after Nagi's followers, or were just meant to destroy mage villages one after anoter

I like your theory. And judjing from the way Negi goes, by the time he will find his father, Negi will join him. And no magic world will stand a chance! Yay!

sorry, but I can't agree with this theory...

if Nagi were to go against the laws of the mage and human world, then Evangelion would have probably known or been at his side...

Also, Nagi can't be evil, as he killed the demons on the night of the village attack to save negi, the demons were there to bring him out of hiding.

What ponders me is this, what the demon said before Nagi broke its neck...he said "it's hard to tell which one of us is the demon here", so I will have to place my bets on some transformation of Nagi that was kept secret.

Originally Posted by Zoquen Hirogetchi

sorry, but I can't agree with this theory...

if Nagi were to go against the laws of the mage and human world, then Evangelion would have probably known or been at his side...

Evangeline was imprisoned at Mahora all the time, forgotten by the the thousand master. And it's not like there's some association of evil-doers - they are typically acting on their own. So Evangeline has no more chances of finding Nagi then any of his comrades. And they were unable to, right? so he must have hidden well.

Originally Posted by Zoquen Hirogetchi

Also, Nagi can't be evil, as he killed the demons on the night of the village attack to save negi, the demons were there to bring him out of hiding.

Don't make a mistake, magic society isn't good (whatever words they say, only very few of them actully go helping people), and their enemies aren't necessary evil. It could be a trap by some within magic society to lure out Nagi, then try and track him. then again, it might be not.

answer to chaotic's questions:the town was attacked because the mage who attacked them had a personal vendetta against nagi and this is reasonable since he helped out during the war, there are probably a lot of people who has the same hatred against him. it wasn't a coincidence because there was clearly a mage directing the attack against the village. and the answer to the last question answered in the first, people have hatred towards nagi because of the support he put in the war like Chigusa in the Kyoto arc. The mage directing the attack probably wanted to be able to inflict damage on Nagi by hurting the people he helped. and i don't like your theory mostly because judging by the little hint akumatsu puts about his personality type it doesn't sound like nagi to do such things. we also do not know whether the boy is fate but it is highly doubtful and chao is from the future so she cannot possibly be in with the thousand master's plan. also it is not heretical if most people think it is correct, who would be the heretical one would be nagi.
by the way there is a thread about theories of the thousand master.

Originally Posted by Zoquen Hirogetchi

What ponders me is this, what the demon said before Nagi broke its neck...he said "it's hard to tell which one of us is the demon here", so I will have to place my bets on some transformation of Nagi that was kept secret.

Well, I have the published series of Negima and in mine it reads along the lines of "It's hard to tell which one of us is the Real Monster here..."
My point of view is that the Demon is referring to the higher strength that Nagi has. Making a point that he himself is more powerful then the Demons combined...


It would be the plot twist that Nagi is behind the Fate incident, but then there is the point that Flannan said about the demons summoned in the Kyoto Arc. It states that the demons were summoned by her powers...
So there also might be someone with as large as her magic power to summon the excessive amount for the Village attack...

Nagi cant be evil.Not his thing.And he would want strong mages by his side,and therefore would ave gotten Eva.He cant of gotten Chao because,I think he would kinda be dead....being a hunderand and something and all....
We all know he isnt dead due to the fact that Alberio's Pactio card still works.
And the Magical world is secret for a reason.Salem witch trials ring a bell?Witch huntings?They are secret for the fear of the human race coming after them again.And Nagi agrees with that....and hes too cool and good,unlike a certain Air Gear charactor who shall remain unknown for now...

The attack on the village might very well be planned, the arguments presented in this thread had been very sound so far.

There is however, something that bothers me. It could very well be that Nagi was behind or somewhat related to Fate. If you see the group photo of the AAA, there is a small boy in the photo that looks like Fate. But this has yet to be confirmed. But then again, I guess for Nagi to be behind the Fate incident is quite unlikely, since there is no (apparent) reason for him to be so.

And for Nagi to be evil, that's kinda unlikely. But then again, it depends on what you mean by "evil". If you think Chao-san is evil, then Nagi could be evil in the same way Chao is. I think Nagi is someone that thinks in his own way, and will do what he thinks is right, just like Chao. IMO, it's not really between good and evil, it's just between differences of opinions.

Originally Posted by qualia

And for Nagi to be evil, that's kinda unlikely. But then again, it depends on what you mean by "evil". If you think Chao-san is evil, then Nagi could be evil in the same way Chao is. I think Nagi is someone that thinks in his own way, and will do what he thinks is right, just like Chao. IMO, it's not really between good and evil, it's just between differences of opinions.

i completely agree with you, when it came to chao nagi thought that it would be nice to let her get away with it because it would be better for whatever reason, just like he would want to go back to stop the village incident. but he knew what was right and wrong and since changing the history wasn't to save the planet and was selfish he knew that it shouldn't be allowed to happen. basically he thinks taht it would be nice to do certain things but knows that they are wrong