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    death incarnate is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    slight spoilers for those who haven't read that far into the original manga.

    Actually in the original manga she only activated her pactio once (this does not include being powered up by negi) and this was when she was fighting against chao. Before that she has shown her wings in the kyoto arc and battle tournament arc without the use of her pactio. You can tell espcially in the fight against Eva when it was an alternate dimension and she had neither pactio or negi there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by death incarnate View Post
    Actually in the original manga she only activated her pactio once (this does not include being powered up by negi) and this was when she was fighting against chao. Before that she has shown her wings in the kyoto arc and battle tournament arc without the use of her pactio. You can tell espcially in the fight against Eva when it was an alternate dimension and she had neither pactio or negi there.
    Well, actually Setsuna used her pactio at least twice - first trying to trap chao with a lot of daggers, the second time when fighting that blonde Shinmeiryu teacher in the future, who broke Setsuna's daggers with every strike.

    But your point is right - in the manga, Setsuna's wings were hers from the start.

    What bothers me is that, as Setsuna is a demon, can she be summoned like those 200 demons in Kyoto arc?
    Suppose someone knows the right spell and has enough power, will he be able to make Setsuna fight her friends?
    And does she have all those demonic powers like vulneability to asuna's antimagic, immortality(exept for the spell Negi probably knows?) and the like?

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    She's half demon, she lacks a lot of a demons power, so logically, she would lack many of their weaknesses too. She could probably be summoned, but only by someone who knew she was a half demon and specifically tried to summon her.

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    How come she's only a half-demon?
    it seemed she was a full demon all the while... She's just albino...
    it's Kotarou who's a half-demon...

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    Setuna is a half demon. The wings and other features are like a taboo. It's similar with what happened with Evangeline. Evangeline became a pure breed vampire on her 10th birthday. Setuna was born this way. She doesn't have parents. (I don't know more specific details)

    Read again the part where Evangeline fought Setuna at the school festival Battle tournament. Evangeline said some things about setuna's background.

    About the pactio, she doesn't need the card to summon her wings. She first showed her wings to Negi and Asuna without the pactio card. This was when Negi, Asuna, and Setuna fought the beast god during the school trip in Kyoto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flannan View Post
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    What bothers me is that, as Setsuna is a demon, can she be summoned like those 200 demons in Kyoto arc?
    Suppose someone knows the right spell and has enough power, will he be able to make Setsuna fight her friends?
    And does she have all those demonic powers like vulneability to asuna's antimagic, immortality(except for the spell Negi probably knows?) and the like?
    Didn't those demons also willfully give up, too?

    grats, you summoned a demon...now you gotta convince it that doing what you want is in its best interests...you can't?
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    Well it looks like they have to do somerthing for what they were summoned for, since they said that as they are summoned, they can't show any mercy.
    Maybe they are doing it because of some treaty with humans?
    (it sounds a bit strange... a demon who sold his soul to humans and must now serve them forever...)

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    ok... this thread is becoming so off topic here...

    what I was asking is whether or not that she is a half-demon in the new series, but while everyone else is starting to talk about the old series, and yes I already know that she is a half-demon in the manga

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuraix View Post
    ok... this thread is becoming so off topic here...

    what I was asking is whether or not that she is a half-demon in the new series, but while everyone else is starting to talk about the old series, and yes I already know that she is a half-demon in the manga
    The honest truth is that you can't really tell. There is no certain proof that she is part demon or full demon in the new series because the only point where her wings show up is when she is in her "Rare Card" Pactio form.

    There is also no script to suggest that she has demon blood either. I think that it might be that it just lets readers of the manga assume that she has demon blood, and then people who don't know the full back story don't get bogged down in details.

    Like I pointed out before though, there was no proof in the first series of her demon heritage so I think that is a similar situation. Because the anime is very centred around Negi, it probaly seems to the writers like it wouldn't pay to follow the manga story one bit, which is a crying shame.

    I mean in a sense of expanding the other characters back stories...
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    OK, heres something else to add...
    Im pretty sure Setsuna is referred to by Eva as Albino in one of their conversations. (Either in the Battle at Kyoto or the Budoukai,)
    And Due to the fact that her wings are 'WHITE' you can note that in many different manga/anime/folklore, The Bird Tribe are known to have 'Black' wings. Albino members of that tribe are considered a Curse or Taboo...
    Most are said to be killed as an Infant but some are actually abandoned or exiled from the tribe...

    Also they are Deamons no matter how you look at them, but I believe that its actually combat gear that makes them look unhuman, like the Kitsune, they have ears and a tail of a fox, but other then that they look human...

    This could be the reason that she sees here self as a monster (Other then the fact that she is) She was seen as a pathetic member of the Bird Tribe and it has weigh on her mind for the 15yrs of her existence...
    (She ages like humans I am sure other wise it would make no sense why she was with Konoka all that time...)

    Oh and just as a FYI, it is said when a Bird Tribe member reaches a certain age they can change form between that of a bird to the of their normal selves...


    Another thing, Setsuna doesn't use her artifact as much as Asuna, but she does use it alot...
    Anytime you see the Tanto blade in her hand, she has activated the Card...
    Her main weapon his her Di-Katana (Which by the by, IS impossible to Draw from the hip without some thing magical helping you...)
    I have seen her use it during the two times stated before, Against Chao and Sensei, but as well as when they rescue Chao from the Teachers the first time and also for a short time in the Resort battle... ((Need to double check that though))

 

 
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