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    jekjek is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Default Guts from berserk in World of Claymore

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    Well, if Guts from the series of berserk were suddenly to appear in the world of claymores, do you think he would be able to defeat awaken ones?
    Apostles from Berserk says regular humans can't win against them, but Guts proves otherwise. Similarily Yoma says regular can't win against them either, but Raki might prove otherwise. Raki doesn't need Uber speed or power like those awakened beings, all he needs is just to be as tough,witted, and battle hardened as Guts.
    And if Raki did all sort of training during the 7 year span would Raki be strong like Guts and be able to fight yomas?
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    Well... I would say that 7 years of training doesn't really match 20-30 years of constant battle experience, but it would bestupid to say that e wouldn't be strong either.

    Guts would probably be able to kill awakened ones. He has showed time and again that when it comes to killing, he is the best.

    Raki might be able to, considering all that training. The question is, does he have the guts? (Pun intended)

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    Keep in mind, guts has been training to kill since he was 5 or 6, he's now about 21-23 range. (23 might be pushing it. Seriously, check it yourself.)

    The biggest problem with Guts being references in Claymore, especially a non-Claymore Raki being played as Guts-like character, is that Guts hasn't been shown to move faster than the human eye can follow for long distances. The Awakened ones, and even some Claymores, have. Guts may have the physical strength; but I'd bet that Ilena could have murdered him and had enough time left in that second to sit down and open a book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    Keep in mind, guts has been training to kill since he was 5 or 6, he's now about 21-23 range. (23 might be pushing it. Seriously, check it yourself.)
    Guts has been actually killing since he was old enough to pick up a sword.

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    Talk about a killing machine eh..
    Even though Ilena is fast, Guts can be cut adn beaten and worse, and he would still come back for more. Taken the amoundt of beaten and scars he have gotten the last years, he's no wuzz, so don't think speed will be enough to beat him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    Keep in mind, guts has been training to kill since he was 5 or 6, he's now about 21-23 range. (23 might be pushing it. Seriously, check it yourself.)

    The biggest problem with Guts being references in Claymore, especially a non-Claymore Raki being played as Guts-like character, is that Guts hasn't been shown to move faster than the human eye can follow for long distances. The Awakened ones, and even some Claymores, have. Guts may have the physical strength; but I'd bet that Ilena could have murdered him and had enough time left in that second to sit down and open a book.
    Actually, he has when wearing the Armour of the Berserker. Also, Guts obviously has superhuman perception, therefore he may be able to follow things moving at superspeed.

    However, given that there's no good way of comparing the relative speeds, we can't really tell who is the faster. If an Awakened one is much faster than Guts, then it will probably win, however, if it isn't Guts will fuck them over royally.

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    yes, the biggest advantage claymores have over Gutts is speed, but remember, Gutts also have superherb killer's intuition, reaction speed, perception, reflexes, and enriched battle experience not to mention his tools, the Dragon Slayer and Berserker's Armor. Beside being a Mercenary, Gutts is also a self taught assasin. Also it is shown that from time to time Guts is capable of improvising inorder to kill a strong apostles without gaining "special powers" or "power charge ups" i.e Claymore's ability to draw power from their Yoma blood.

    Another thought, would clare be able to kill Zodd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jekjek View Post
    Another thought, would clare be able to kill Zodd?
    Awoken Claire wouldn't break a swet before he was dead.

    Question is - Who would win; Rigald (Rigardo) or Zodd?

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    true, it would be a tough battle, Rigald have speed and strength, Zodd have strength, flying capabilities and instant regen. Again the speed advantage is too overwhelming... but so far we haven't seen Zodds true capabilities yet, for he was never brought down to his knees by anyone except for Femto/Griffith.
    side note: a remake of berserk the anime would be good to demostrate speed of characters in berserk. Again speed is almost everything when swords are concerned.
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    Actually, no. Speed is only a small factor. The things that are most important are direction and accuracy. Well... Except for the Dragon Salyer were that doesn't really matter. And remember, guts would catch the evil ones attacks with his teeth.

 

 
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