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    Hainuwele is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Angry US Licensing companies have screwed up another great anime

    No I'm not going to rant about how Bleach and Naruto were screwed up by shitty voice acting. I'm talking about The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.
    For once in a very great while they got voice actors that match the character and are close to the original voice actors. This by all means is a HUGE achievement since i went purely sub. BUT what completely ruins this achievement is that they released the episodes out of order!! Yes, you read that right. Changing the order of the episodes or the script(story) are considered deplorable acts. We all remember the Card Captor Sakura/Cardcapters debacle a decade ago. It seems to me that us companies still don't have any respect for the original creators or the fans. Especially with the attitude "we bought the rights we can do what ever we want to it" Here is the order in which the US released it.
    jap release - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
    us release - 2 3 5 10 13 14 4 7 6 8 1 12 11 9
    The original anime was air out of order on purpose for those that are confused.
    This arrangement aloud them to have better character development and a run ing gag in the preview where Kyon and Haruhi bicker about episode order.

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    I actually agree with this change. In no way is this a screw up.

    The episode order in the original airing of TMoHS amounted to nothing. All it does is confuse the watcher, and for no real good reason.
    Imagine bringing that to screen to a 10 year old. Old enough to understand whats going on, but, forever confused because they think they are missing episodes. The series makes more sense in this order, and there is nothing else to it.
    Its not as if they are desecrating the Anime, by drawing over it, changing soundtracks, or even hiring terrible voice actors. They are just making it more accessible, and understandable for everybody.


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    Watching the entire series in one go I think watching it in the new order would be better, but when you were watching it weekly as it aired it really gave me this fuzzy feeling of greatness when everything never made sense.

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    Tetnubis, TMoHS is not supposed to make sense, it should confuse you.
    Saying that this make's it more accesable to 10 year old children isn't a valid argument either, as there is too much levels in it for them to be able to understand it. Follow along with the plot (if seen in the right order), maybe, understand it: never.

    As for watching it in one go. Watched both the released order and the chronological order, and I actually prefeer watching it in the released order, as it gives some feeling of how the plot is when watching it.

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    i don't mind it being out of order. although sometimes it kinda got to me, yes, but still i'm always open to something different. even if it confused the heck out of me... -__-; but yeah, like LarsDeman said, it's not really supposed to make sense when you watch it that way...
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    Complaining about the order when the original was out of order (that was the whole point about the squabbling over the next episode number) seems a bit thin as grounds for "ruined! ruined I say!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetnubis View Post
    Imagine bringing that to screen to a 10 year old. Old enough to understand whats going on, but, forever confused because they think they are missing episodes.
    (This is the main problem that anime has in Western countries. Regrettably, since anime it's animated most people automatically think that is aimed at children. And this point of view is so strong that it's manifested even among anime fans, like in this example.)
    Haruhi was first serialized in The Sneaker, a seinen light-novel magazine. The manga was serialized in Shonen Ace, the same magazine that serialized MPD Psycho. Sadly, I don't know at what time the anime was originally aired in Japan, but since the radio drama was broadcast at midnight (24:30 every Friday) you can imagine that the anime version of Haruhi wasn't exactly aimed at 10-years-old (or I can be wrong, since Haruhi is a "cartoon" after all, right?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hainuwele View Post
    BUT what completely ruins this achievement is that they released the episodes out of order!! Yes, you read that right. Changing the order of the episodes or the script(story) are considered deplorable acts. We all remember the Card Captor Sakura/Cardcapters debacle a decade ago. It seems to me that us companies still don't have any respect for the original creators or the fans. Especially with the attitude "we bought the rights we can do what ever we want to it" Here is the order in which the US released it.
    jap release - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
    us release - 2 3 5 10 13 14 4 7 6 8 1 12 11 9
    The original anime was air out of order on purpose for those that are confused.

    This arrangement aloud them to have better character development and a run ing gag in the preview where Kyon and Haruhi bicker about episode order.
    You're right, Haruhi was aired in Japan in that order, but the DVDs were released in chronological order (Broadcast order DVDs were never released in Japan). (Please Hainuwele, I beg you that next time you make a thread like this at least research a bit more, OK?).
    And even if that were the case...really, compared to what ADV did to Ghost Stories a change like this is nothing.

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    QFT.

    Their putting them out in their boardcasting order. Something most series in the U.S. are put through at times *coughfuturamacough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsDeman View Post
    Tetnubis, TMoHS is not supposed to make sense, it should confuse you.
    Saying that this make's it more accesable to 10 year old children isn't a valid argument either, as there is too much levels in it for them to be able to understand it. Follow along with the plot (if seen in the right order), maybe, understand it: never.

    As for watching it in one go. Watched both the released order and the chronological order, and I actually prefeer watching it in the released order, as it gives some feeling of how the plot is when watching it.
    Anime, what channels are they mainly aired on? In the past, you would only find them on channels suck as FoxKids, Cartoon network, and later on Toonami [a branch of CN aimed at the teens].
    The majority of Manga titles that are released. Ask yourself, what ages are they also aimed at?
    Marketing will tell you that the majority of Anime and Manga fans are in their early teens. Though, this is not 10 years old, I fail to see how my point is not a valid one.

    We are discussing Anime in the US, not Japan. Anime in Japan, is seen in a different light. as expressed in NeoFireHawk's post, Westerners know cartoons as cartoons, and a kid, frankly does not give two shits. Shiny effects and bright moving colours is all they need.
    Even if they do not completely understand what is going on. the fact remains that the events happen in an order that they, as well as an adult can understand. Meaning that the company has catered for everybody.

    Your arguement is based on your personal preference, whilst mine is looking at a larger picture, I think. You cant disregard the thousands of young teenagers, and children, who, are the main source for money and ratings in terms of Manga and Anime. Sure its slightly selfish, but unless you have done your research, like us, what difference would you know? They are bringing it over, under the pretence that you have not seen it before, nor' know anything about it. Not to re-watch something.


 

 
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