Thread: Vampires.. Who are they!?

Ah Cali revived this thread did you. Well I will try to get this going with my 200th post.

First of all my theory on what the vampires are and their history.

I think the vampires and Gantz have been fighting for very long time now. I mean the vampire go back several hundred year when a virus started infecting people and turning them into vampires. But since they call the Gantzers their natural enemies it is possible that Gantzers been hunting them for a very long time. Think about how difficult it is to kill off all vampires as a race if just one survives it can infect others and start all over again. Gantz could have send repeated hunts against the vampires so often that the vampires consider the Gantzers their "natural enemy". There really is no other way to look at it, the vampires are not the strongest, there plenty of other stronger aliens but yet only the Gantzers are the natural enemy.

About the vampires being alien or not, well probably the nanobots that created them did not originate from Earth. Though I do have a suspicion that they were created by Gantz, you know a bit like bots so newbies can practice on and off mission to improve their skills. It would explain why they were hunted so often both vampires and Gantzers if they are just being manipulated by Gantz again.

So far the vampires do not seem interested in an invasion, they just want to drink human blood, have fun and kill all Gantzers.

Now back to what you said about vampires turning others into vampires first. I guess they mostly want men because they think they are more suited for combat. I think they can make anyone a vampire but I think they are very choosy so they pick strong, healthy men when available.

Turning into a vampire does not automatically make you loyal to them
often turned vampires go to new ones since they have no place to belong like Kurono's brother. But make Izumi a vampire would be incredible stupid if they did because it is clear where Izumi loyalties lie either to Gantz or himself. So all they would achieve is make him stronger and harder to kill.

^ Damn, that was a good point.

Now, thinking about the vampire numbers and also about another post in one of the other vampire threads (please, let's stick with this one): the vampires usually attack in large numbers and they usually die a lot... but no matter how many of them are killed, they insist on fighting the Gantzers, or better, Izumi, and later Kurono. This means either they don't care about dying or they have a real large population. If they don't care about dying, I have the following theory: when the girl aproaches Akira she says "I almost didn't recognise you", and the guy at the seminar says "you feel you're not quite yourself", so maybe the nanomachines are not only "vampirization tools", maybe they are the vampires themselves. It'd go like this, the nanomachines would have the memories and possibly genetic info of the previous original vampire/being and would then be reproducted on a suitable vessel. Like the voduns in "Roswell Conspiracies", I guess. They had some neat Oni Aliens in that show too. Oh, well, just a harmless theory.
The same would apply to the guns and swords, there'd be an original and the nanomachines would make a copy of it, being stored inside the vessel.

About vampires not being afraid to die, I think the problem is that they are more overconfident because they are in much larger numbers also they have the advantage knowing the Gantzers weakness. They just dangerously overconfident like the Osaka Gantzers.

Also I doubt that the virus can transport individual personalities. I think the"I almost didn't recognize you" implies that they carefully choose new vampires also there were maybe a dozen people in the seminar. They also probably new vampires too. I guess since Izumi killed so many they needed new recruits.
When the guy who did the seminar said "you feel you're not quite yourself" , I think that he was referring to vampire characteristics like craving for blood or increased aggression.

I think it would downplay Gantz's power to bring people to life if the vampires could do it too.

Hmmm. Maybe so.

And now, to cover some stuff discussed before too, concerning the vampires' powers. It had been thought that they had morphing skill due to the way they materialize their weapons. If that was indeed so, then HS wouldn't worry about his finger, because he'd be able to grow one back later, or maybe even "glue" his original one. But that's actually weird, anyway you consider how the nanomachines work; if they could reproduce an item like a sword or a gun, there should be no problems recreating a finger either. Unless the sword and guns are really "normal" sword and guns that are just put inside the body with the help of nanomachines (a bit weird, but then again, it's fiction). IF the nanomachines are just used to make space inside the body and heal normal woulds faster (like Akira when shaving), then it could really be Akira's head HS was holding and not just a fraud.
And now, on the trippy side, maybe these infamous nanomachines could be used to try and get rid of the bombs?

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Good point on using storage for Akira's head.

Well about why vampires don't create more vampires. It seems like vampires need blood to survive, so if we exclude cannibalism, they still need more blood to survive.

More blood = Requires more humans
More Vampires = Less humans

Wouldn't want Tokyo to be a ghost city in the middle of the day would you? Plus the stupidity of some male vampires is astounding. That's probably why we don't see so many female vampires, like someone else mentioned before (a strong health male) is more suitable.

I think they can manipulate the nanobots though telepathy, you know they just have to imagine the exact shape they want the nanobots to take.
Though they can control the nanobots in their body they cannot manipulate their body.
In order to create a gun they have to know the exact design of the gun so HS cannot create a proper replacement for his finger, I think best he could make is a lump that resembles a finger. He would have to know the exact composition of a finger.
About using the nanobots to get rid of the bombs would be useless because Gantz would just put right back in. Also how would they know exactly where it is
maybe it is lodged in special part of the brain so when it gets forcefully remove the person dies.
The accelerated healing could be that the nanobots are transporting blood platelets quicker then a human normally could. So I do not think it has to do with how they make weapons.

Although it would be sort of a cliché but... women would work awfully better in luring men to be food.
If they choose their companions based on combat potencial, as we're inclined to think, then there's really more to the vampires than just blending in human society and feeding ocasionally.
The food issue was a good point, I had kind of overlooked it. It's still intriquing though; if the nanomachines are just virus carriers and body-space managers, then they would only be humans infected by a disease? It doesn't seem to be the case, I guess.
In short, damned damned damned Oku. Gotta love the guy, though.

EDIT: Maybe the healing is an effect of the virus, just like the hunger for blood, whereas the nanomachines are used to transport the virus no longer needing the classical biting thing and as a bonus, allowing them to have weapons hidden inside themselves (gotta laugh at this last one)
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Well in the seminar they did not say that the virus can only enter humans I guess vampires just do not infect animals because they are too hard to control.

@etufo: They do not need blood to survive they just get headaches and I think they get eczema on the back that resemble bat wings. I think that they sometimes use animal blood bu I guess for them choosing animal blood over human blood is like choosing cheap beer over a fine wine. Maybe vampires run blood banks, that probably is the most logical explanation.

Still, it must be awful having cold blood to drink. I do remember a remark about getting Baldy's blood while it was still hot.

And even though they might not die of starvation if they don't have blood, the headaches and the eczema things must not be very pleasant.

It'd be nice if the 'virus' thing were at least an attempt to create alien-human hybrids, because if it's just some sort of disease, well, that'd just suck big time.

Also, if the vampires had that sort of good attitude, they probably wouldn't need go on killing random people on the street like the time they met with Akira.

About vampires killing Akira's friends apparently randomly it was not on random . I think it went like this.

HS: Hey there is one the the news guys that went to the seminar. We have to make a good first impression so lets kill the guys in front of him that appear to be his friends,drink their blood and politely offer him some. Then we will convince him to join us...... yeah that sounds like a good plan.