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    coolerimmortal is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Default Finally, the truth of Gantz is becoming clear!

    227 spoilers follow.



    You'll have to bear with me; this is a little long...and I've got numerous points. Please read it all; it'll make more sense.

    Now we know that Gantz has a large web following that investigates it. More importantly, we know where Gantz came from, or at least another place where it is: Germany. The name of Gantz is starting to make some sense.

    Now let's look closer at the images of the giant black ball in Germany.

    First, look at the file name: "Heaven's Door". This is clearly the name of the group in the picture...there are many of them. Heaven's Door...Heaven's Door...sounds like a cult, eh?

    Think about the name. Heaven's Door. When would one be at Heaven's Door (we're assuming temporarily that Heaven exists...let's not start a theological argument; I'm talking from the perspective of the cult...I don't believe in Heaven myself)? When one...wait for it...dies. Doesn't that name sound more significant now?

    But enough about the name. Let's think more about the image itself, of the people surrounding the giant black ball. Does it remind you of anything? Look at these:

    http://zionsake.tripod.com/rock-o-allah.jpg
    http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egy...m/mecca.lg.jpg
    http://witcombe.sbc.edu/sacredplaces/images/mecca1.jpg

    See where I'm going with this?

    Now let's investigate the Black Rock of Islam. It was a religious artifact even before Islam; Islam states that it fell to Earth thousands of years ago. It was originally pure white, but turned black after absorbing the sins of man over the years. Interesting, eh?

    Now let's apply that to Gantz. Remember how each volume begins? That quote...the one about the light and the darkness. Now compare Gantz to the Black Rock. The pieces are starting to come together.

    So what IS Gantz? Well, there are two clear possibilities based on this most recent chapter:

    1) It's a replica of the giant Gantz of Germany, created by the Heaven's Door cult.
    2) It fell to Earth or was spawned by the giant Gantz; no humans were involved in its creation.

    Either way, it stands to reason that there are numerous Gantz's in various nations, Japan's Gantz being only one of them. Hell, who's to say there isn't a Gantz per large city? We can't know how many of them there are, but the big Gantz implies other Gantz's besides the one we know.

    What is the purpose of Gantz? That's a tough one. The whole "taking on the sins" thing implies protection, eh? Gantz exists to protect the Earth. It's a security system. It literally takes people from Heaven's door and has them fight for mankind. There's even a Jesus element going on-Innocent people (well, not all of them) are sacrificed, brought back to life, and must go through a figurative "hell" to help humanity.

    So what IS Gantz, as a story? It appears to be a giant metaphor for Christianity, Islam, and perhaps Judaism. This is nothing new in manga, mind you...numerous series have used Christianity and Christian themes in the past, such as Angel Sanctuary and Devil & Devil. So don't get all up in arms over this...I'm not saying Gantz is Christian propaganda; merely a metaphor.

    So there it is for you...the truth behind Gantz, and what it stands for.

    Discuss.

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    Toby is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Just here to tell u 1/3 links work. =/ Also you brought up a very interesting point.

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    coolerimmortal is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    2 of the links work for me, odd...all three worked when I typed it up.

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    heh while it does make sense, you may also be wrong and just wasted your time doing all the reseach. that would be funny. nevertheless a good point.

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    Time spent in research is never wasted.

    I would call it too early to say that what you propose is true, but I can't find anything obviously out-of-place on cursory inspection.

    I'll be able to offer more once the rest of the translation is available.

    ~J
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    m_742617000027_m is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    I think we will need to see
    more hints from the author
    to see if your assumption is correct or not.

    ps.
    one more thing I'd like to add in your is that
    there's a vampire in Christianity as well.

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    You made a good research, even two links (first and third) don't work i got the point. And I think it's a very good point, but i woul like to see the translated chapter before.


    Quote Originally Posted by coolerimmortal

    Now let's apply that to Gantz. Remember how each volume begins? That quote...the one about the light and the darkness. Now compare Gantz to the Black Rock. The pieces are starting to come together.
    I was always thinking about this quote and what it meant... seems that we're going to have an answer very soon.

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    betatester is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    even if that black ball is some sorta heaven's messenger.. toying wif those gantzers lives in a game is a bit ridiculous

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    Verlierer is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    When someone is as thorough as you in their opening statement, Mr. Cooler, it makes it a bit hard to add anything meaningful to the conversation. (Please do not take this personally; it is just a friendly jab, I suppose. Thank you for writing such a well-thought out post!)

    If Gantz is either one of the things you mentioned it could be, I wonder what the man inside means/symbolizes, while on the topic of religion. Perhaps another metaphor... it is man's choice what becomes of man, or something like that. (Religion is not my strong point, sorry.)

    There is something of a redemption aspect as well; if you lead a sinful life, perhaps you can make up for it by defeating these potentially dangerous invaders?

    Again, thank you for the meaningful post. =)

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    i was thinking about their being a black ball in diff nations, but then the black dudes in the dino arc wouldnt have been there right? or were they in japan atm?

 

 
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