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    Seto kun is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    dear mr doctor
    i ill ask you politely to shut the fuck up and stop with the insults, we can have an educated conversation without the need to sling mud at each other, thats what politicians do
    Seto Kun wrote:
    the manga, imo the, greater plot behind it, is not so religious, it is the youth of today, specially in japan, with the hikikomoris and whatnot, kids lock themselves up in their room play MMOs because in it the can be a hero of legends or villain, and many times they preffer this 3d life to their dull and meaningless ones, and this can be said for any game, i mean who hasnt played CS or WoW, they re just damn addictive, and you can usually find friends who will admire your skill and overlook how ugly, dumb, or too damn smart (geeky) you might be


    That's sort of the strength to gaming you dopey twat. It comes with the territory. And GUESS WHAT? I haven't played either CS or WoW. They both blow.
    are you saying its alright for kids to lock themselves up in their rooms and not leave cept for their basic needs, like work, for the money, and to the grocery for food? cuz thats what the typical hikikomori is like, avoiding most or all social contact
    the ever judgemental society they live in and the addictive games, or media, that offer an alternate reality
    games are for entertainment, thats it, even competition games, if taken too seriously the fun is lost
    And wow, I used to be as stereotypical as you are now, but then I decided I didn't want to spend my life pouring concrete.
    what the hell is that supposed to mean?

    and by the way, Einstein was able to deliver his theories because he had a much greater understanding of the universe than you can even conceive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seto kun
    and by the way, Einstein was able to deliver his theories because he had a much greater understanding of the universe than you can even conceive
    yes, but does he have enough knowledge about what we're talkin about?

    so, you do believe that universe is not created by God. how could some complex systems -like our body- exists if not created by something greater? evolution?

    it is natural for human to not be able to understand everything. just dont tell something is not exist if you cant give enough explanation

    PS : i do not believe bible neither, it's not my stuff

    and about gantz, i am not a christian so i dont have idea for this topic
    pardon my english

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    Viscious is offline Senior Member Regular
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    I can see what your saying. The concept between the forces of hell and heaven kind of fit in perfectly with the muslim religion and gantz. In their apocalypse Jesus actually takes up a sword and slays demons. At the end of the world those who are faithful go to heaven and those who are not stay on earth until a horn blows and they die. Kind of like gantz how he brings back those who survive. To those who unworthy, are the people who die in the missions.

    I don't know if that is something that you might have been looking for as a connection but they kind of fit together.

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    WTF people are you becomyng nutz ??? Ok the Gantz virus has spreaded all around this place .... this is going too mucho even for me ...

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    sakolmontri is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Heaven and Hell things fit perfectly with the word Catastrophe Nishi wrote.


    P.S. I still thing that religious is higher than a cartoon.

    and i still think the best religious is the one that is scientific like Buddhism
    (not the Chinese adapted Buddhism that contains many God, worshiping and praying. I mean the Langka ,Thai , Burma one)

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    Seto kun is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    overchill, i will counter your post with the ID theory, or intelligent designer theory that was approved by the Texas Board of Ed
    "since the universe is too complex, it must have been created, by an ID"
    but under those same laws we can state that someone, must have creted this ID, and another created this other and so on, giving birth to a line of infinite creators
    and under such circumstances it is possible an ID was just created, out of nowhere
    now how come you want to say some over omnipotent being could create itself but the wondrous universe which we lay eyes upon (unlike your so called god) cannot have created itself???

    now i will proceed to quote einstein again "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."

    and humans cannot understand everything because their brains, or imagination, are not large enough, although Einstein's was much bigger than yours, or mine, and most
    thats why he was a genius
    i could name many a great philosophers who discussed the unexistance of a god

    now, more toward the topic
    if Gantz could in any way be called religious, it would be in its apocalyptic undertone, but we havent seen the aliens slave or eat ppl or destroy their cities, they ve just blended in, and responded when provoked by the Gantzers
    so they cant really be called evil, the Gantzers themselves tend to be darker and more wretched, while the aliens simply fight to protect their own
    cept for the vampires, who kill the humans and drink their blood, but werent they originally humans? hmmmm

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    Warfolomju is offline Banned Respected Member
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    Jesus Cryst people it's not a religion ... let me explane ...
    1)Gantz is a fucer and he like to make people do what he want,example put an explosious device in a head ...
    2)but if the potential fighter has lost his will to fight (Kurono,old man),then the only way is to give him reason to live .. like killing your friends and girlfriends,then giving a chance to revive them all by getting that much points ....
    So stop that crap about that bible crap .....

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    coolerimmortal Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:34 am Post subject:

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    Angelmonster wrote:
    It is an interesting idea but not plausable at all. jurono is not Jesus...I don't see him as a Jesus-type figure what so ever, sorry :-/


    Technically speaking, Katou would be Jesus while Kurono represents humanity in general. Consider:

    1) Kurono hasn't died.
    2) Katou has.
    3) Katou's death led Kurono to improve himself into the person he is now; in essence "saving" him.
    4) Katou has been ressurected.

    Thus, Katou and not Kurono represents Jesus. Through his death he "saved" Kurono, aka humanity.

    But then again I'm an agnostic, so...
    ofmg Kurono and Katou died at the same time and then came to Gantz AND then Katou died again

    Deaths:

    Kurono 1 - Katou 2

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    Did you even read the manga .... this fuckers die too much

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    Warfolomju is offline Banned Respected Member
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    I hate you ....
    anyway ... but they are wrong ... why does they put religion in ,it's absolut nonsense ...

    Off topic
    you are the spammer at this moment and I'm not spamming at this moment and I have a live but only after 12.30

 

 
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