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    event is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Quote Originally Posted by airoblasts
    And also Nishi never was detected by the alien, he was only hit by the alien's attack because the alien shot in the direction of where nishi was shooting from.
    Chapter 36, Nishi steps on the hackling and then the robot shoots him, even though Nishi is a couple of feet away from the hatchling he stepped on (appears to be moving from the hatchling as it happens). The robot even raises his eyes towards Nishi's upper body, possibly face (there is a close-up).

    Chapter 37, Kato states that the robot can see Nishi.

    The anime ellaborates even further on the fact that Nishi can be seen by the robot (I think it's more like hear now that I think on it).

    In the anime Kato says, "That robot can see him."

    Kurono later says to Kishimoto, "The enemy can see him anyways, it doesn't matter."

    Both quotes refering to him struggling with the handheld.

    I don't completely disput the later of your proposals though.

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    You spoke about 32 chances: Would you check a door after 8 people have checked them before??? (Speaking about before the first mission of Kuruno). So I donīt think the motocycle exists since Izumi arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarafan
    its not like nobody went in that room before, remember thats were Sadako was always hiding.
    she was always in another room, and im not sure if that room had any doors, and if it did, it was always open (the room she was in). Basically, its something that nobody ever realized, Izumi's first day in (technically not, but you know what i mean) opens the door, and Kurono has an "I'm a fucking Idiot" moment because it was there the whole time, but he never bothered to check all the rooms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by event

    Side note: Writters usually don't think that far ahead anyways in an ongoing project; they develop arcs based on a specific story structure involving key static elements. Things get changed on the way and that's why people notice issues with continuity. Novels are different.
    The idea of the motorcycle behind the door only comes into play when Izumi joins the game. Doesn't what you said about the writer not thinking far ahead support Izumi knowing about the bike because it was a weapon he recieved?

    Whatever, if you guys think up your own theories I will be sure to call them stupid for no reason too.
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    actually, if you guys would actually pay attention to the dialogue, the manga explains it very well why nobody noticed the bike before and only izumi knew about it, and no its not a weapon he requested.

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    I know he knew about it. I did pay attention. I still see no reason to assume it wasn't a special weapon. Please enlighten me. . why are you so sure?
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    Sure a bike would be a rather dumb ultimate weapon, but how come there's only one bike when there's a lot of everything else?

    As for the room, I don't think it really matters whether or not it only opened when Izumi came in. I actually agree that the room has been there even before Izumi's first go at Gantz. All I'm wondering is why there's only one bike supplied for so many Gantzers. Perhaps it was a previous Gantzer's ultimate weapon and that room was simply used to store it...

    Anyways, we'll find out soon in the next few chapters what ultimate weapons can actually be.

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    There isn't ONE bike. There's two. The very first page you even see the bike is page 98 of chapter 136 and you can clearly see another one right behind it.

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    ok thanks for clearing that up. . yeah if there are two it isn't a special weapon. . i still am angry that every other person saying it wasn't had absolutely no justification for why. . . but now i agree that it wasn't a special weapon. .
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    Well then that just cleared everything up, didn't it?

 

 
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