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    Tormentor is offline Senior Member Regular
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    It looks like Oku watched Battlestar Galactica and the "hybrids" , and an obscure sci-fi novel by an Italian author about superior beings betting on the fate of people transferred on another world after their death. I'll find the title, I've the book in my library...

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    Hurry up and get the name of the book!

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    It's a short novel, published in those cheap sci-fi books, I've many, also in the bathroom... And now I'm lying on the sofa with a coke, my laptop and a movie on TV, I'll tell you later... Or I make a search on google without moving from the couch... (I'm lazy, sorry)

    Ok, got it (>burp< , sorry, coke)

    The novel is "il gioco degli immortali" (The immortals' game) by Massimo Mongai , 1999 . You can download (legally) a PDF here:

    http://www.liberliber.it/biblioteca/...f/il_gio_p.pdf

    obviously it's all in Italian, I hope you're good enough to find an english translation, or use Google translator. Mongai is pretty famous for a couple of scifi novels, in this one, the narrator dies in an accident and awakes in a room where a machine... Ok, too long to explain, however there are a lot of elements in common with Gantz, I connected the two because of the gambling game that is described in this chapter, in the novel he awakes in a room then a counter starts and it is transferred on the surface of a planet, when he dies he come back to the room, then he learns what the computer is for and at the end of the novel he learn what is all for... Sure Oku reads a lot of sci-fi (so do I...)
    It's more than obvious that the players of this "gambling game" are immortals by the technology that they acquired, the vampires are not a part of the game, I mean that if they are around for centuries, they can only be "enlisted" in the game but not created by someone. The aliens, I don't know...

    The element of the mentally disabled person that speaks by a code is told in "Minority Report" and, as I said in the new Battlestar Galactica TV serie, by the "hybrids", while the fat woman reminds me something that I've already seen in some comic book by a south american author... I'll tell you if I remind better, maybe Ricardo Barreiro and Juan Zanotto but I've to dig in my large collection of comics, that's not easy (they are also in the bathroom)

    ... And if the sources of Oku's inspiration are those ones, the Katastrophe could begin with a snowfall...

    In that case, I'll cry like a little girl...

    (I didn't move from the couch, thanks internet... >FART!< ... Ohh... I wish you were here...)
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    By snowfall you mean actual snow falling or bombs?

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    Ugh. Oku... man. Talk about one hell of a disappointment. I had hoped there was something so much more to it than a simple gladiator game created as a means of entertainment. How many times has that been done?
    In order to 'acknowledge' the 'irony' I would have to learn two new words today.

    ...

    ...And I'm not going to do that.

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    Who says that's why it was created. That's just what the old man and his pals are doing with it. The real purpose behind it, the aliens and vamps is probably something different.

    We just know that his wife talked gibberish and it turned out to be blueprints. He built the stuff and deployed it. We don't know why and how she came up with that stuff, if the old man just put balls everywhere or if he put the people in them too, where the aliens come from etc.
    Most likely he has no idea about the real purpose of it. He just saw what became of it and thought "hey, me and my pals could bet on this shit".
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    Could this be why Izumi (was that his name? guy that turned himself blackonese and went on a video-game-like shooting that involved telekinetics, a street fighter, and a boss fight against his classmate) anyways, could this be why that guy told Nishi "I want to show everyone tokyo/japan is the best"

    Oh and the first vampire(s) was actually an alien in one of the older unseen gantz mission (possibly one involving izumi). Either all the hunters were killed or the vampire/alien(s) managed to survive just long enough. Luckily missions take place at night. After that, they started feeding and turning humans into vampires and created a gang of gantz' hunters.. hunters. My guess is that Izumi left gantz the first time around so the vampires couldn't find him anymore. Not remembering why he left, he came back like a dumbass. By now the original vampire(s) is dead, most likely an arrogant lower generation vampire. I can think of any. I don't really know, I'm just bullshiting really. But lets see how wrong I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsujide View Post
    Could this be why Izumi (was that his name? guy that turned himself blackonese and went on a video-game-like shooting that involved telekinetics, a street fighter, and a boss fight against his classmate) anyways, could this be why that guy told Nishi "I want to show everyone tokyo/japan is the best"

    Oh and the first vampire(s) was actually an alien in one of the older unseen gantz mission (possibly one involving izumi). Either all the hunters were killed or the vampire/alien(s) managed to survive just long enough. Luckily missions take place at night. After that, they started feeding and turning humans into vampires and created a gang of gantz' hunters.. hunters. My guess is that Izumi left gantz the first time around so the vampires couldn't find him anymore. Not remembering why he left, he came back like a dumbass. By now the original vampire(s) is dead, most likely an arrogant lower generation vampire. I can think of any. I don't really know, I'm just bullshiting really. But lets see how wrong I am.
    Given what we have been shown, If somebody was to try to explain it. That would make most sense. Except, wasn't Izumi recognised? Throwing off the 'generations' of vampires that your hinting at.
    I'm just saying, that's all though, it sounds like it could be plausible with the exception of that . We all know Gantz is pulled out of the asses of every Japanese child whilst they sleep.

    As for Izumi's quote. That's a good reference. And fits in to this 'entertainment thing' that the latest chapter mentions.
    Another mention could be when Kurono was soloing Gantz. After the Buddha mission. Forced to get 15 points minimum, for failing to do well in the previous mission.
    Wonder how many rich folks lost out on money when the sole survivor of a 10+(guessing) God hunt ran away and hid until time ran out?


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    There also are similarities with the movie 'Contact' where humans get random prime numbers from space and build complicated machines following these instructions. The fat daughter is maybe a kind of antenna.

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    Well that didn't really explain things at all.

    So how did the name gantz come by? Did the old man make up the name or the fat lady? Are all the balls called gantz or is it just the one in Tokyo? Don't you just hate it when a plot gives you more questions than answers.
    Computer says no... *COUGH*

 

 
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