First of all, yeah, of course they were dumb also due to being under the effect of drugs, but what I mean was that most likely they weren't bright from the start judging by the reaction of some other person, namely Kuwabara, also under the effect of drugs that was by no means dimmed by them, since he managed to stay alive by acting properly, avoiding the blow - may I remind you, WHILE raping an alien AND suitless. That was my point.
And taking individual ability out of the equation is pretty much nullifying all this debate.
I beg your pardon, but to me it sounded like you was taking out the individuality factor here, because you were talking about the effect of drugs in general, disregarding my mention that most likely those who act in a dumber way than the Osakan main characters were not that smart to begin with. We could get into another argument about how knowing your limitations or being arrogant shows stupidity or not, and the level of individual stupidity and/or arrogance shown by the Osakans that fundamentally lead to the death of almost the whole team.
As for Oka, I believe you're discarding what I wrote. Anyhow, "Nothing in his fighting style that suggest he was on drug". If you hadn't seen Kuwabara smoking marijuana, then you'd say he wasn't on drugs, then? Because he fought pretty much better than Oka imo. And of course it disproves your argument in case he was indeed on drugs and managed to live, because it'd mean that being on dope by no means gets you certain killed even against all powerful foes. And if you primarily focus on individuality and how those enemies are different from these enemies, then the whole point in comparing their performance was null to begin with.
I'm not disagreeing with this "The most ideal state of mind in fighting aliens is somewhere in the middle. Your mind isn't clouded by fear, but clear to think, fight smartly and safely.", only this "They have everything to fear from drugs in this mission." and this "The only way that the Tokyo team killed Nuri while Osaka team died was because their heads were clear, they thought up a strategy."
And what do you mean "some member of the Osakan team fought the way they did without the drugs and getting a better hold of themselves is a great thing for them"? Because the only one who wasn't on drugs and fought reasonably well was Nerdo and maybe Oka. We can't know in Oka's case. Just as we can't know how exactly was the fight between him and Nuri.
I also realize my disagreement on the previous post could've used better development, especially with the "completely disagree" bit since I do agree on some points.
While drugs do put some under a dangerous state of mind, it might also improve in some sense the perception of others, or, at the very least, give them a recklessness that might prove or not useful to a degree. You can't really judge the effects and the performance based on a general idea, hence why I emphasized Kuwabara's performance. Different kinds of drugs could have very different effects.
The guy who calmly marched to his death without both his arms was under a completely different effect from Kyou, who was excited and active. So, depending on how the individual competence cope with the individual effect of the drugs, the result might be favorable, and not always leading to demise and stupid acting.