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    Cali is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    But what development you wanted for Suzuki-san to take, then?

    He was old, just like Sakata, which had his organs screwed. Old Man didn't really have much to live for except for the new life he was given, which he used for others more than for himself - he was happy to meet his wife back when HS almost killed him at the end of the dino mission.

    And I disagree with your point on Inaba. I think it is an important aspect, despite the fan hating, because Inaba is quite realistic. The douche bag who's afraid of frightening things, despite having been granted the power to counter that new terrifying reality.

    And the Old Man was really important to Kurono indeed, because after Katou's death, Old Man was Kurono's main friend. Surely, the team respected him, but the Old Man shared a greater link with Kurono, a bit paternal maybe. All the more so seeing during the Oni mission, in which they paired up, just like in the Dino mission.

    I really liked the Old Man, but I think after he offered to share his house with Kaze and Takeshi, then his death was pretty much set up, even more than when he was talking to his wife's portrait.

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    yes, the whole thing about him talking to his wife and setting a place for Kaze and Takeshi is pretty much foreshadowing his death. I'm not arguing with that. What I'm saying is that they are just poor and down right crude attempts at scrapping out the character.

    As for Inaba, You're right. He is important from a literary point, as it provides that douche bag character that we always see (as I once mentioned), and it's realistic. It adds "thickness" to the team. Having a team that is filled with good characters is just very flat.

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    ^I know you're not arguing about that ' I was just mentioning it.

    The thing is I don't see any other way baldie could've bitten the dust, or continue alive for that matter.
    Him dying for Inaba also adds for further development, even if once more negative, of Inaba's character.

    Dying in "grand style" also wouldn't fit, imo. If every character were to die a death like Sei's or Togo's, then there'd be no real value to them. That's what I think, anyway.

    So, in short, I don't think it was a waste. Now, if we were talking Sakata here... then it'd be a different story.

    For Suzuki, I think the only possible moments of value other than those he already had would be off-room stuff, which didn't happen as much as it did with Sakurai or Kaze. Reika as well.

    Someone once said that whenever a character isn't seem too much off-room, that means he's pretty much a goner. (aside from Inaba, of course).

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    I don't know what better way he could have died, since I'm not the artist. But as a reader, I expected more out of Oku. Now, I don't mean that I want him to stick out toward the end and freed himself or whatever. That's both corny and unrealistic. I just find Oku's resolution disappointing.

    Edit: and did anyone notice that how gigantic the statue aliens compare to their real life counterpart?
    Last edited by twinoceans; 02-17-2009 at 10:28 PM.

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    the spoiler image of oldman being ripped apart made me cringe :s
    I hope Inaba does something interesting after being saved that way or I might join the Inaba hate-club > the fact that there's statues that are heavily damaged and still walking around is very unsettling 0_0

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    I think that there's some misconception about the whole h-gun and x-gun, here. Just because we only some x-gun shots on the aliens doesn't mean that x-gun is more effective. Chapter 291 clearly shows that the aliens are vulnerable to h-gun. The reason we don't see them on the aliens because if Oku let h-gun hit the targets like the x-gun, there wouldn't be those aliens walking around anymore, which defeat the point of having the aliens on the overwhelmingly superior side. The damages on the aliens body are to show that yes, the gantzers are doing some damage, too. It's not an unrealistic one sided win with a bunch of guys with long range weapons not scoring a hit on a bunch of giants using only melee. And since Oku can't use h-gun damages to demonstrate, he used x-gun damages.

    Another explaination is that there's an overwhelming amount of x-guns holders comparing to h-guns, since h-guns are 100 points weapons. We see alot of h-gun now is because the guys holding the x-guns are mostly dead leaving only the veterans with their h-guns around. So since there are more x-gun holders, there are more probabilities of x-gun shots than h-gun.

    In any case, it is clearly shown through 291 that h-gun does more damage.

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    RAW

    THX to Heji Sama from Ritual Scanforge.

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    yeb, h-gun is still the best. The aliens must move at extreme speed to be able to deal that much damage, and avoiding so many guns at the same time. The small flying ones are the dangerous ones. They take you out without you knowing it.

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    WAIT! did you guys notice? The statues of the aliens are not the real life counterparts. Look at this, you can see that the statues of Neptune and the statues surrounding him are still there. This explained why the alien statues are so big, because they aren't the same ones as their real life counterparts. So that begs the question, where did they come from??


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    ^ Nice find It looks like the boss could be Jupiter if the aliens are copying statues and are much bigger than their counterparts.

 

 
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