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    BlueDemon is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Oh,him....
    But really now,donīt you guys think it was alil too easy to get in that factory?If the Black Balls (lol) are top secret,that shouldnīt happen that easily...But I guess this was already discussed already,or wasnīt it?
    I think something there is fishy,or Iīm overthinking this and/or Oku is simplifying the matter

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    Fatty is invisible from outside, she is not a hostage but simply frozen in terror and unable to move away, can't see if she survived the explosion...

    Nishi is on a suicidal mission, if he wanted to stay alive he would have escaped the building... He firmly believe that the end of the world is incoming, so why care ? His classmates mocking him (actually they tried to kill him...) simply ignited the fire and had a hell of a payback (I think the "retribution" in the translation is not the right term).

    I would have liked that Nishi was left-handed and the scenario would have been perfect...

    Now only some Gantzers could bring him out of that school but I don't think someone will come (but I'm hoping it... The team would be weakened again without a skilled one like him)

    Also, note that this is another conseguence of Kurono acting that ends with a massacre, this time asking for reviving someone like Nishi...

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    Well, she's still cowering in the corner when the explosion occurs, so most likely she'll still be alive next chapter, though maybe bruised.

    Nishi on a suicidal mission? Oh, please, someone who wants to see what the world will be like after the catastrophe wouldn't really go on a suicidal mission. It's not like Nishi. Also, he commented himself "how did it turn out like this?" so he didn't plan to do all that shit from the start.

    Your remark of a new massacre created by Kurono was nice. It makes me think of Monster... and other good titles. ^^

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    Yea, leaving fatty alive must be a proof that Nishi has a good core somewhere deep inside him...

    He became like this because of all the mobbing around him. Well, can't proof how everything started. The invasion will be more important now then this side storyline of his massacre... If he's unlucky, he'll see some of his classmates in the Gantz Room next... Lol

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    i wasn't expecting him to literally kill em all. i figured he'd just beat the living shit outta them. either way they got what was coming to them for throwing the guy out the fukin window.

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    i wasn't expecting him to literally kill em all. i figured he'd just beat the living shit outta them. either way they got what was coming to them for throwing the guy out the fukin window.
    I was shocked that he killed all the girls except dumplings.

    @morten. No good man is entirely good. No bad man is entirely bad. And Nishi is smart. If it's the cops he might need one hostage to use as leverage. .

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    ^Oh yeah, you're right... I kind of forgot the possibility Nishi would use piggy as a hostage. That pretty much solves everything, I suppose.

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    Ahh this is what I've been waiting to see.
    Well the rules have indeed changed but we don't know to the extent and neither does Nishi obviously playing it safe. But his hindsight comments to me don't seem to be about the police or the situation rather the impending count down. I mean he must have taken all that crap at school for a while and he pushed everyone's buttons that extra bit, so he knew he'd get a rise of some sort. The teacher the desk, the laugh, all stirred more volatile responses, I high doubt that his school life played out like that on a day to day basis, and I'd bet that contributed to his lust/love of violence... but anyway awesome stuff great chapter

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    ^Reminds me of this one Lucky Luke episode where Luke is trying to organise a piece talk between US garrison captain and indian chief... the Captain keeps referring to the chief as "savage" (of course, he doesn't really mean it, just how he refers to them in general). And one point the chief just loses it and takes out his tomahawk. "White brother has called me savage one time too many. Indian chief will show to him he is right."
    Ahum, long metaphor. Anyway, the classmates were right - nishi was a mass murderer in the making.
    That being said, is it just me, or is the new nishi a bishonen? XD.

    I wouldn't describe Nishi as "bad" (but then again, no one is, when you think about it this way). As far as he himself is concerned, his general attitude is nothing more than a response to a world that is either indifferent to him, or picks on him. He usually takes his frustration out on aliens, or by putting down his team-mates in gantz or random cats, because well, the social impact of slaughtering an entire class of bullies is (well he goes over the edge and does it anyway, so no point in discussing that)... He fancies himself a cool customer, able to shrug off whatever the universe throws at him, but as his death and this classroom massacre, he is nowhere as cold and insensitive as he wants to put out.
    To further support this, remember Izumi - even though nishi bombed out on him during the fight, Izumi didn't expect him to, and they were all smiles at that. They had a very cordial, working relationship. Furthermore, there's fatty, she's still alive, and Nishi doesn't seem to have any intention of killing her (by the way, last chapter, i personally believe that Nishi was amused, not by his classmate's narrow minded-ness but by the fact that Fatty didn't raise her hand. When you stop to think about everything it implied, it's funny, even though you'd have to be Nishi to laugh out loud at something like that spontaneously). So Nishi isn't "bad". He merely gives back what others give him in kind. Try to kill him? He tries to kill you. Look at him as if he's some kind of freak? He act like he's some kind of freak (kurono, at the start, was always giving him long looks). Have a decent conversation with him? He talks decently and very intelligently as well. Ask him for information kindly, and he supplies it to you.
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    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
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    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    ^ yea well i never thought of Nishi as a freak just a bit demented...
    but he is a somewhat nice person when you look at how he talks with people he thinks that deserve being treated well..
    I really think Nishi well go down like a hero kinda like Izumi just not for his #1 fan..
    hopefully when he dies permenently he will do it with style..

 

 
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