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    Tanjiro Kimura is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Quote Originally Posted by EightBall View Post
    I think your sig is too big. Kekekeke. Have a nice ban.
    I don't think so. *cough* spammer *cough*



    IMO, you guys all seem to have much sense in your ideas, and here's my new take on it:

    I think Tae will soon realize that Kei Kuruno was actually dared into dating her. If such events could happen, I'm sure she'll forgive, but there's always that upsetting time lapse, and I know this maybe a long shot, but during that upsetting time for Tae (assuming she finds out), there will be a lot of time for Kuruno to see things differently, specifically Reika's personality and obviousness of her love towards him.

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    ^ Well, there's no way she'll know since their old colleagues are dead. Remember the ring alien school massacre?

    Also, Shin, the reason Kurono brought Tae to his room was just what I pointed out; he went to have a nice fuck with what he could get his hands on at that time. At least that's he states, more or less with "Did I bring her here for this?" or something like that - I won't look into it now (see a pattern in my recent lazyness?).

    The fuck-only thing changed to a degree of caring during the said ring alien massacre.
    And then it changed to damned crazy love afterwards.

    As for Reika, I don't think Kurono gives a damn to her personality, especially considering her selfishness pratically killed Tae in the first place. Of course, he might have some more esteem for her now that Reika was the one who revived Tae, to make up for her mistake, but still, I don't see love going on between those two.

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    ^We're talking about chapter 108 - where Kurono goes "that, that, that" and asks himself "how did things turn out this way?". He then rationalizes it by saying he "just wanted to" so he did. That's what i mean where i said Oku pulled a houdini on us. It was Kurono acting on impulse, so there's no room for disagreement - using that approach, it doesn't have to make sense... you can only accept it as something that just happened...which i find very hard to take in... like i said, i can understand why Tae said yes, for the reasons i mentioned, but as far as Kurono is concerned, i don't have the foggiest idea. It's not like Tae turned him on(Oku emphasized Erection/Masturbation/Body to make that clear about Sei/Kei). It's not even as if he was thinking of anything hot before he ran into her... so yeah, i just can't justify it, and considering that became the basis for how quickly they got to be so close, it's not something i can glance over lightly and say, "oh it just happened".
    As far as i'm concerned, KuronoXTae is deus ex machina, hence, not "real", something that oku did to further the purposes of the story. It can't possibly have the same value as something that "flows naturally from the course of events"... I hope that's not too engerish littish for you...
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    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
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    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    ^ I have a different opinion on Kurono's growing thing for Tae.
    I think a man in need of someone to bang won't really be that picky. Kurono isn't the hottest guy around either - sure, he might look cool and all to us readers and especially fanboys (gosh, do I sound gay!), but Oku makes it very clear that aside from those who seen the value of his actions and character, Kurono is seen as a daytime lantern.
    So he just got his hands on someone with no barrier towards his selfishness. He couldn't care less about who it was, he just lucked out that the girl accepted his proposition come from a bet, and did her.
    BUT, as he found himself in a situation where lots of people got killed because of him, and here onwards it's my own very particular "something" on Kurono's behavior and thoughts. I think seeing that massacre reminded him of the Budha mission. I think seeing someone who confessed to have a thing for him being the only one alive and leaving her to die might've reminded him of Sei. I think he saved her out of a duty to the ones he neglected in the past, even Kishimoto. And I think he directed those feelings at that one girl alive rather than burying himself in guilt for not having done better to those who cared for him and he cared for in the past. Which'd also be why he turned helpful at the Kappe mission, plus the Izumi "malevolent guy" factor.
    So, in short, I find his liking to Tae perfectly "real enough".
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    ^I'm not debating or even disagreeing on what happened "after" (even though there's a lot of "i thinks" and a hell of conjecturing going on down there). My only beef against Kurono X Tae is that the "why" Kurono dragged Tae into his bed in the first place seemed "forced", and not natural. I agree of everything that grew out of it, but the explanations i have gotten on why kurono actually bedded her in the first place have been, so far, unsatisfactory, at best. The "kurono wanted to get his balls off" doesn't fly well after Sei and Kei - back then, Oku clearly showed that Kurono was aroused and not thinking straight, which is why he acted the way he did (jumping Kei's boobs, asking sei to fuck). Compared to that, Tae's scene happens completely out of the blue. On top of that the sexual harassment chapter, where Kurono walks up to the real kei, Oku makes it clear that he now realised how much of an asshole he had been, thinking with his balls and all, and was somehow trying to make it up. It also seemed to be part of what moved him from being a sex-starved teenager to someone who thought more before he acted on impulse. Generally, the message we get throughout the following chapters (including Izumi and chibi alien arc, as well as the "cute/chaste" relationship he was building with Tae) is that sex was very low on his priority list.
    Sure you can rationalize it AFTER it happened, but not BEFORE it did.
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    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
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    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    ^Well, then we absolutely disagree as I find it very natural that he'd still have at least a bit of sex-driven thinking to the point of not even realizing as he conducted a not so attractive girl to his home and bed. I've seen some of that happen in real life often enough so I don't really think it was that out of the blue, but that's just me.
    And on the heavy conjecture part, I know, but that's where the fun lies, aye? ^^

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    ^XD... yeah, when it boils down to that, all we can do is "agree to disagree"... I like to believe guys even if guys do think about sex every 5 seconds, they won't take it out on anything anything that won't say no... probably very unrealistic standard, XD
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    Some people just won't accept Kurono and Tae mainly because of looks. Very sad really, because I seem to think they're a beautiful couple.
    etufo: HS is most likely going to die sooner or later. Who will kill the cool character killer?

    Popo: well, obviously going by that logic, HS will have to kill himself...

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    I just wanted to say, the day Inaba actually screws Reika is the day i throw up after reading chapter...
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
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    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    ^XD... yeah, when it boils down to that, all we can do is "agree to disagree"... I like to believe guys even if guys do think about sex every 5 seconds, they won't take it out on anything anything that won't say no... probably very unrealistic standard, XD
    It would be unrealistic for a guy with good people skill. Kurono is really bad at his social skills.

    Remember the time when his friend "tagged" kurono so that he would not have to pay the school bully? Kurono would keep friend like that. After he defeated the school bully, he also did not even talk to his so called friends about it. He is like, whatever. He would rather do things his own way and fail, than to ask someone to help.

    Kurono is a loner, and socially awkward. Look at the Sei scene. Sei is much better at talking. She initiated the conversation. She made small talk, asked if Kurono was into otaku, and then said she would not mind. She was trying to put him at ease. On the other side, the only thing Kurono can say after repeating a few times, was to ask for sex.

    As for the Tae scene, Kurono just does not know how to ask properly. So he went ahead and did it. It is good for him that Tae accepted his advance. If kurono was rejected, his development would turn Nishi on the spot.

 

 
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