# Thread: Gantz 280 - 281 discussion/prediction/spoilers

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since 1969 huh, wow you can find that detail?? two thumbs up d^^b btw i wonder if the equipment has been evolved since that time or still the same

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1969... I wonder if it's a coincidence that year is when man first stepped on the moon, and the manga deals with hunting aliens. It probably is, but funny, nonetheless xD

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1969 is too much to be a coincidence. Oku might just surprise us once again.

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The Moon is a big ganz ball 0.o

Naah...but the coincidence with the moon landing is awesome, even if it should be wrong, gj Ikari.

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Oku is definitely up to something...

Heaven's Gate reference... And now 1969... Keep em coming...

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Originally Posted by ikari
This is quite sad of me, but I totalled the timer to full 9s across the board and totalled how long Gantz would have been counting down.

Basically, if the timer started with all 9s across and counted down, it would take just over 31 years to count down. If Gantz is currently set in August 2001 based on Nishi's site, the Gantz manual and dialogue, then the countdown would have started in December 1969. Or 196X for Gantz manual purists.

Just a fun little point Im throwing out there for people to discuss.
Just how did they translate Gantz's Katastrophe Clock to normal time? What unit of time measurement was Gantz using?

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^Gantz seems to be using seconds so it's a simple calculation: 999.999.999/(60 x 60 x 24 x 365,25) = 31,69. 2001 - 31,69 = 1969 (give or take).

I already did the calculation myself, but I forgot the implications of it having to do with the moon landing. Maybe Oku is setting us up for a big moon landing conspiracy? The moon landing was a fake and what the astronauts did find caused the aliens to move to attack Earth? Perhaps Gantz was left behind on the planet by another alien race and was activated (or created) to defend Earth) from them?

Anyway, nice find, this could really be something.

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That black ball reminded of the black monolith in the 2001 movie since the first appearance...

Lawl. I hope Oku didn't copy this. Would be too lame...

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Gantz is 200X, but when exactly in 200X is it?
Ok, here we go.
In 121, where Tae interviews Izumi, she asks him what he thinks of the situation in Iraq (and he replies he doesn't like war, etc, etc) The Iraqi offensive begun in 2003, 19 March (says wiki) even though there was talk of an Iraqi offensive since mid to late 2002. Providing for the same one month time frame, the Osaka arc should be ending late 2003/early 2004
Ok, Nishi seems to have known about Katastrophe for a long time, presumably since before the first mission where Kurono meets with him. Providing for a hard maximum of one month between Missions, Kurono's first Mission should still be early 2002/late 2001. At a rate of 5-10 points per mission, Nishi should have had 0 points i.e first mission, in early 2001.
Flaw in this theory: 121 talk about the "situation in Iraq" rather than the actual war (at least my sub does) such that 200X could be as late as 2008, considering the "situation in Iraq" is still an ongoing problem. However, as a random question to drop in an interview, it's more likely that it was in the early stages of the war, rather than the late ones, considering it was more likely to be the word on everyone's lips.

This doesn't prove or disprove Ikari's theory in any way. Like I said, you could still work it out so the doomsday clock comes to an end in 2001 something.

So what does this prove? Gantz is more likely to be set pre-2005, rather than post.

However, Oku could just stuff all this maths and just come out and say the 1969 theory was correct (case in which we file Izumi's interview under inconsistencies and what not). In any case, assuming the 1969 theory is correct, we have to provide for a +1-5 year timeframe (if not more) before the alien invasion starts. I.e. 1969, we make contact (with gantz or the aliens). The invasion probably wouldn't have started right away (well it could, so don't put any money on that). My two cents is that the timer isn't "as of moon landing" but rather as of "start of invasion", which would follow the moon landing by a sufficiently close number of years to tie it to that event. I.e, if the the timer comes to end in 2004 , minus ~31 = moon landing + 4, which is sufficiently close to the moon landing to justify a link, imo.
Last edited by Shin_Igami; 09-20-2008 at 12:00 AM.

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That's a very good point about the Izumi interview, Shin. However, I thought the timeline from the manual placed the timeline of Gantz around 2001 (at least, the dates provided there were up until the Tae Alien mission, I believe).

Perhaps the Izumi interview is another one to put under the Oku files, but as you said, the moon landing theory could work either way.

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