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    Stuyvesant is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Katou irritates me. I saw him as a good foil for Kurono. The two sides of the coin. Both are fighting on the side of good, but Kurono showed that you don't have to be a putz while doing it. Katou hasn't got that yet, or maybe his balls just haven't dropped.

    I think there is definately space for Katou to grow as a character. As Sid said, we've seen the hint of darkness within him. I think he needs something to come along and seriously brake him, just shatter his world. Then he can lose it for a while. That would be entertaining.

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    Katou = Big Body NARUTO. And trust me, I hate your typical shounen main character which like u mention KATOU screams. Plus i doubt he'll be the leader now that Kurono is back since a lot of these current followed Kurono. Kurono has saved them quite a lot of times so i doubt they'd turn on him.

    And no, i dont think there's space for Katou to grow, he has been the same since the beginning, even death couldn't change him.

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    ^
    He's starting to kill aliens. He's starting to doubt himself when it comes to be selfless. This is only the beginning.
    etufo: HS is most likely going to die sooner or later. Who will kill the cool character killer?

    Popo: well, obviously going by that logic, HS will have to kill himself...

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    That was pretty good stuff what ya wrote Shin...
    I just re-read Gantz and I must say he isn´t THAT bad.I actually don´t dislike him,I just think Kurono should stay the main character - but I also think it´s more interesting to have Katou how he is now,with his reluctant art of killing aliens and such.Of course he´s going to change and I think the Katou/Kurono duo will be badass....It has the potential at least^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharthavicious View Post
    Katou seems like a shonen character in a seinen book. The only hint of darkness in the man was brutally beating the hell out of the guy who wanted to rape him.
    WTF When the hell did this happen?


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    ^after the first mission.

    Have to agr33 with Shin in almost everything.

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    Okay, time for some maintenance. Despite the low post count, there's been a lot of sensible stuff being thrown around here. Personally, I have made my feelings on Katou clear (at least i hope), and I won't be going over posts that argue for Katou good/bad. It's up to you whether you hate him or not. The point behind this post is to summarize what i believe to be the "new issues" that were raised by various posters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharthavicious View Post
    The best characters are the ones you have mixed feelings about.

    As a Gantzer I think Katou finally hit his stride in the Nuri mission. He was scared to death but still acted. After facing down Nuri the other aliens probably won't be as intimidating to him.

    That's enough writing about Katou for one day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarome View Post
    He needs to keep on bein' the main protagonist because personally I don't what Kurano could brin' back to the story right now.

    Whatever, I love both characters. Even though Kurono is more skilled and has more raw talent as a Gantzer, Katou was the man that killed 1000 Arms + Nuri, so enough said.
    On a sidenote, I made a long argument on that issue somewhere (Edt: Found)
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    Much as I would like to see Kurono Return, it's hard to find a subsequent purpose for him. His relationship with Tae is ashes, he is a known target to the vampires, he is officially dead (unless Gantz decided to sneak in and make Kurono disappear, but if he didn't bother with Izumi, he probably won't for Kurono). Sure, he is THE Boss Killer, and when paired with Izumi, is Nigh Unstoppable (two of them would probably give oka a run for his money, mech or no mech), but it's hard to find anything for him to do. Katou has a purpose - to get out of Gantz, maybe reviving Kishimoto or Kurono along the way, and anyone else who he thinks is worth it, which he probably will if he doesn't get toasted, considering He is Katou-cha (lol) he will do. Popothepenguin could probably write an essay on his evolutionary potential as a character, as well.
    Kurono, on the other hand... I don't know... he doesn't seem to have much room for evolution left. He only has a few stuff we'd like to see him do - Face off with Akira... Kill Vampires... Fuck Reika... Settle Things with Izumi... and Kill Bosses using some crazy stunt/trick
    Doesn't seem like enough to me for him to actually become the centerpiece of the story again.
    But then again, this is Gantz.
    We may be heading towards a two/three leader set up with Kurono - Izumi - Katou each having an even slice of the action/story/character development... but GAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    we won't find until at least ten chapters or so...
    Ok, on second thought, that's a hell lot of loose ends, but well, you can't really make a good manga out of loose ends (well, you can, but i don't want that happening to gantz)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunmetal Gray View Post
    Katou = fun to laugh at as his plans are made of fail (Buddha, Tanaka)
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dingo View Post
    I think Katou is going to be putting effort into decoding what Nuri told him. Granted he asked the question to stall for time before Nuri ripped him limb from limb, but I think that he's going to keep the response to heart. Remember when Thousand Arms asked him why they were hunting aliens? I feel that Katou is going to put initiative into figuring out the mystery of Gantz.
    Quote Originally Posted by etufo View Post
    Katou just reminds me of an incomplete Superman. Once he reassess his beliefs and priorities, he'll be the Man of Steel in Gantz.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dingo View Post
    Katou's kind of Michael J. Fox's character in "The Casualties of War". He's there to keep the team from becoming something like Osaka. I think Gantz was actually pretty cunning in sending them to Osaka. Somehow he knew that the Osakans would not defeat Nuri because they were basically a team of Izumis and Nishis. Katou just proved that the Tokyo Team has to stay a Nakama in ordered to survive the big guns. Katou is the moral paragon, Kurono is the miracle pulling stunt man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharthavicious View Post
    That's enough writing about Katou for one day.
    Last edited by Shin_Igami; 09-01-2008 at 08:40 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    There are plenty room for Katou to grow. But the MOST important thing is he needs to get laid first off... then maybe his bro could like trip over his toys and die then Katou will be vengeful about his decision to bring kurono back instead of freeing himself. His character will definately venture into uncharted territory, and maybe going bald from depression in the process (Hot Damn! Can that hairline go any higher or what??).
    Last edited by imfeelingthis; 09-05-2008 at 07:32 PM.

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    The more I think about it these manga/Gantz characters are acting like cartoons were there is little character development. You can put Katou, Kurono and Nishi right back in the onion arc and they'd pretty much do and say the same things. Nishi would just stand around going "Hmmmmph". Katou would stand around with sweat beads roling off his forehead saying "Uuuughhh'. And Kurono would do something kickass.
    I don't hate Katou but he's just one level above Inaba IMO. So much potential wasted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nu_Delic View Post
    The more I think about it these manga/Gantz characters are acting like cartoons were there is little character development. You can put Katou, Kurono and Nishi right back in the onion arc and they'd pretty much do and say the same things. Nishi would just stand around going "Hmmmmph". Katou would stand around with sweat beads roling off his forehead saying "Uuuughhh'. And Kurono would do something kickass.
    I don't hate Katou but he's just one level above Inaba IMO. So much potential wasted...
    Well, mangaka absolutely could develope them more over past... FEW YEARS! but he did not.
    There is still potential, the aftermission period was always full of such things
    That's the theory anyway.

 

 
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