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    ikari is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Anyone notice that Suzuki never wears glasses after the Kappe hunt? Maybe Gantz fixes eyesight (or Suzuki has contacts...)

    As for the Tanaka scores, I figured if a sent Tanaka cost 3 points and the boss was 5 points, it would total ok (which shows how Oku probably had aliens worth 5 pts as the Onion Dad was a 3 pointer when sent, but then later changed the point scheme in time for the Statue hunt).

    This brings to a point in that case how Nishi seemed upset he only got 3 points for the Onion Dad, but before had 87 points, which seems to me he had used the y-gun a few times before then (otherwise he'd have 85 or 90 points). Though we now know that the y-gun does not reduce points, Im going by a feasible excuse for the points used by Oku back then.

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    What I don't get is how Nishi was in Gantz for almost an entire year and only had 87 points... unless Gantz gave him the easiest missions possible because it was just him and 5-10 new people who get slaughtered. Also i read somewhere that the missions happen every 12 days or something like that, so there is 365 days in a year every Twelfth day is a mission that is 30 or so missions a year. He's averaging about 3 points a mission then and he's pissed that he only got 3 for the onion thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktono View Post
    An error could be the nerd saying that he will revive the milf, and no one has told him about the 3 options when getting the 100pts. only the 1st.
    Who told him about the first ? afaik, he spent a good time with kyou so eh might have told him a lot of stuff.

    About nishi, I bet that he gave up on the hard missions and got his points resseted.

    Sbout the tanaka scores, it is very possible that since those were accidental deaths, even if caused by kurono, one of them was not given to him.

    Also, the points are not that random, they are not based on how strong a target is, but on how is a target to kill; so a raptor which is not that strong and pushes your "he si a predator and I am his food" urges is onyl worth 1 point, hwile a tae which is hardly any dangerous, but has the "can I kill a human, my teammates are turning against me" mode .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton View Post
    What I don't get is how Nishi was in Gantz for almost an entire year and only had 87 points... unless Gantz gave him the easiest missions possible because it was just him and 5-10 new people who get slaughtered. Also i read somewhere that the missions happen every 12 days or something like that, so there is 365 days in a year every Twelfth day is a mission that is 30 or so missions a year. He's averaging about 3 points a mission then and he's pissed that he only got 3 for the onion thing...
    Well, the missions are paced more or less monthly, info taken from the manual; that 12 days thing is bull.
    And "easiest missions" isn't really accurate. Nishi himself states he's survived crazier nights than the Onion alien mission. Also, he was there when Izumi achieved 100 points, in the hunt against the jeans aliens (they look like ogres, seen on Izumi's flashback).

    Quote Originally Posted by maximilianjenus View Post
    Who told him about the first ? afaik, he spent a good time with kyou so eh might have told him a lot of stuff.
    Anzu told Nerdo and other newcomers about achieving 100 points enabling freedom. Chapter 255 or so, don't really remember and can't really check now that Gantz is off onemanga \=

    Quote Originally Posted by maximilianjenus View Post
    About nishi, I bet that he gave up on the hard missions and got his points reseted.
    A likely possibility indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by maximilianjenus View Post
    About the tanaka scores, it is very possible that since those were accidental deaths, even if caused by kurono, one of them was not given to him.
    But considering the other 5 were, that's a bit weak as argument. In any case all 6 were dealt with and due to Kurono's action. I wonder if Oku has realized that inconsistency or if surpisingly he has a logical explanation for it such as the y-gun count being defective for that particular mission or something...

    Quote Originally Posted by maximilianjenus View Post
    Also, the points are not that random, they are not based on how strong a target is, but on how is a target to kill; so a raptor which is not that strong and pushes your "he si a predator and I am his food" urges is onyl worth 1 point, hwile a tae which is hardly any dangerous, but has the "can I kill a human, my teammates are turning against me" mode .
    Interesting thought.
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    Now I remembered something that bothered me for some time; Nishi uses the controller... even if he thought the baby tanakas were the minions and the young tanaka the boss, he should for sure know there was a lot more of them. One can't really manage to survive being an idiot who doesn't even know where the targets are, right?

    Another is Reika knowing Tae's in the database, even though in that case, it could've been told off-screen. (I don't really think so, but who knows)

    @ Ikari: About good Suzuki-san's glasses, it has been theorized that the eyes were fixed, but no certainty about it.
    @ Shani: would you happen to know if there's any mention about the glasses on the manual, perchance?

    All in all, it could be the same as Kuwie's goatee.
    Last edited by Cali; 08-16-2008 at 11:50 AM.

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    maximilianjenus is offline Senior Member Regular
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    kuwie always shaves before having sex. So, while the other were smoking marijuana, he was shaving (down there too).

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    Quite possibly Oku's biggest mistake: Katou's BFG shot(s)

    That big hole doesn't look like multiple shots all in one area. It's a perfect circle.
    etufo: HS is most likely going to die sooner or later. Who will kill the cool character killer?

    Popo: well, obviously going by that logic, HS will have to kill himself...

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    About Nishi and his hunts, on the web page Kikuchi shows Kurono, there is a list of updates that are the beta dates for hunts (the date of the last hunt, the Onion one, was made earlier in the Gantz manual). There are about sixto seven hunts there, with the first being November '99, when Nishi, as stated in the Manual is when he first went into the room. This is the last hunt of '99 and as Izumi is stated as getting 100 points and leaving the room in '99, then Nishi must have knew Izumi as team leader from his first hunt only, against the Jeans aliens in Shinjuku.
    It would explain why Izumi couldnt remember Nishi as he wouldnt remember some 13 year old newb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modern_boyz View Post
    gantz = death (even the main character)
    gantz = main character is weak, pervert, others negatif, not a common hero
    gantz = very unique manga

    thats why i love this manga more than other
    Gantz - Cause no main character isn't expendable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikari View Post
    About Nishi and his hunts, on the web page Kikuchi shows Kurono, there is a list of updates that are the beta dates for hunts (the date of the last hunt, the Onion one, was made earlier in the Gantz manual). There are about sixto seven hunts there, with the first being November '99, when Nishi, as stated in the Manual is when he first went into the room. This is the last hunt of '99 and as Izumi is stated as getting 100 points and leaving the room in '99, then Nishi must have knew Izumi as team leader from his first hunt only, against the Jeans aliens in Shinjuku.
    It would explain why Izumi couldnt remember Nishi as he wouldnt remember some 13 year old newb.
    Though in the Manga its hinted that they had something of a "team", like when Nishi asked how the NEW team was like. So its possible that there was a semblance of a team back when Nishi and Izumi where around but most likely pretty much everyone who was in the team died or where freed.
    The team was probably a small one considering how Izumi and Nishi both have total disregard for "weak" players, and considering how many players of Gantz where probably weak...

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    Quote Originally Posted by etufo View Post
    Quite possibly Oku's biggest mistake: Katou's BFG shot(s)

    That big hole doesn't look like multiple shots all in one area. It's a perfect circle.
    It has alreayd been explained that the bfg can make holes of different sizes, using nishi's previous shots as reference.

 

 
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