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    ^ I hope they'll decide to stay, and I do realize that option 1 isn't really the way to go, but I'm not sure anyone other than Nishi has paid much attention to it, much less Katou. I think they'll be faced with the uselessness of either 1 or 3 eventually, but I don't know if this first mission has been enough for them to notice it. As for Kaze, he turned down freedom to protect Takeshi. With Takeshi freed, for instance, I'm not sure Kaze would stay in the room.
    Now, about Katou deciding to stay for the sake of the civilians, that's a big step; he's a heroic type, but he isn't a hero yet, to choose "saving the world", risking his life and being apart from his brother, I don't think he's prepared for that... yet. But I can see that as being a reason to maintain him in the room and maybe choosing option 2 some time in the future.

    EDIT: And about the earlier argument, I was considering only the outcome of the current mission. Now, some missions later on, after Katou realizes he can't go on trying to revive everyone that's died and should focus on useful characters, or after he has already revived some of those he cares for or bla, or after some kind of different development that makes him change his mind, then I have no problem seeing him ressurect someone the team asks for.
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    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali View Post
    I don't recall Nishi ever saying Gantz fix his screw ups. And that had to do with recruiting people, Nishi never mentioned the 100 point revivals.
    Gantz does have a conscience, I agree, and I'm one of those of the opinion Gantz doesn't screw up and does what he does for fun, hence having another Kishimoto to see what would that new person do. If Gantz would "realize his mistake", Kishimoto wouldn't be on the revivals list in the first place. Also, Gantz monitors the hunters, so he definetely knowns there's another Kishimoto, for Kurono talked to the original, remember?

    You're missing the point. As of now, even though to us readers is clear that option 1 is not a very good pick, since they can be attacked and wouldn't even know, the team hasn't show yet evidence of that realization, so we are to consider Katou's goals are: 1 revive Kurono, 2 get freed. For the other team members, with the exception of Sakurai, the primary option should also be get freed. If they get 100 points, they wouldn't bring back an Izumi to help them get 100 points, that's my point.

    Now there's room for other choices in Katou's revival list, Anzu, for even though he didn't took a fancy to her as she did to him, he did make a promise and he does realizes the importance of a person who has someone to return to. And, the possibility of HS being killed on his hands. With those possibilities, plus he wanting to be freed, I find very, very, veeery unlikely that he'd revive someone he didn't even get to meet, and I find it almost even more unlikely that the team would make such a request on Katou upon seeing all this.
    Kurono's pick on Nishi was partially for info and also to get rid of his doubt; whether to revive Kei or Sei, considering he already had Tae (that's how I see it).

    It's also evident that regardless of intending to revive everyone, he did leave and didn't ressurect the girl he liked nor the girl who gave her life for him. For the rest, of it, my other point fits it as well.

    For someone who claims to think things through, you ignore some pretty basic things and does pull things of your ass like the talk about Gantz fixing his suposed mistakes.
    Yous see, what's funny, is that I don't limit myself to what is in the immediate future. Also, you still haven't disproved anything of what I said. You just reiterated the fact that you don't agree with me. I'm still waiting on the undeniable evidence. What you gave me, is pretty much what I gave you, theories. So, in that sense, we are both right, and we are both wrong. Of course, who is more right is all in the eye of the beholder. Apparently since I didn't come to same conclusion as you, I obviously don't think things through. I guess that's what happens when you think outside the box. Good day sir. (Don't respond to this as I am done trying to reason with you)

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    ^ Nyet. Did you read my reply to teiohx? Since we're yet to see the outcome of this current mission, I considered your mentions were directed towards it. In that case, I still see in no way Katou ressurecting someone that team asks. However, if we're talking about the long term, that's fine. That applies to some other stuff too.
    As for not knowing whether Kishimoto was revivable, I think I provided enough for you to reconsider your questioning.
    And for being occasionally rude out of my own ass, I apologize.

    In any case, if you analyse your own point, with Kurono coming back inside the room and achiving 100 points, why would he bring back Kishimoto? Wouldn't he be more interested in surviving? A new weapon or bringing back Izumi would be in service of the team, bringing back Kishimoto would be at best in service of Katou.

    And just to disprove your part on me not disproving any of what you say...
    http://www.onemanga.com/gantz/021/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Gantz/21/16/
    There's no mention to fixing, nor here, nor anywhere else. (=
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    I'll chime in and agree that I do believe HS is gonna die. Ugh I need to reread this entire manga...


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    I'll just wait to see if he dies or not.
    I have my doubts that he will. Not in his first mission in Gantz.

    But Katou will most likely get the points and revive Anzu. Or he will vow to do so. I prefer the first because the latter would just further delay Kurono's comeback (and the first wouldn't).
    Plus since she has a kid to get back to her revival is kinda pressing.

    So much for all the people that thought HS killed Nuri after seeing the spoiler pictures. You should always wait for the confirmation and not rely on one picture.
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    ^
    You do realize this is Oku right? He's killed numerous popular characters already without much warning in the past.
    etufo: HS is most likely going to die sooner or later. Who will kill the cool character killer?

    Popo: well, obviously going by that logic, HS will have to kill himself...

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    I dunno Oku has a thing for killing off skilled characters. His manga is all about the common man thrust into impossible odds and overcoming. Any time any one of those people is no longer a "common man" ... they die. Kurono, Izumi, Oka, George, I-fuck-alien-pussy-for-fun guy, Takeshi... all died right as they realized just how awesome they truly were. Died confidence high and at the relative top of their game. They have reached the plateau only to find that God has cut it in twain and they're running off a cliff. If I had to bet I'd say that Kaze was going to be the next to die just by that logic...


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    ^ But Kuwabara hasn't been confirmed dead yet.

    @ Feanor: We are yet to see whether Katou or HS will get the kill, if Katou's shot is still to take effect, there's still the possibility HS can get away, since he's a fast sob.

    And I have to agree with etufo and SD; Oku killing off HS now would be quite an unexpected development, therefore a likely possibility... I guess? Not to mention that Chigusa alone would lack the will to do harm to the Gantzers, she even asked if they should wear the suits... no HS would be almost as cool as no-no HS ^^

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    Ah, so much future potential with HS... He sure will be another one of my favorite characters if he pulls out to be Nuri's final killer... His new role in the game will be worth a side-story about him outside Gantz and the new relationship Gantzers vs Aliens vs Vampires,too. Maybe he'll tell something new about we don't know yet about our fellow Black Ball...

    @Steal: Lol, Uncle Fucker and Takeshi aren't dead yet. Takeshi sure is one of these candidates for some major points after the show... He gets used to kill aliens in the next arc, I guess.

    And Kuwa only lost his limbs not his dick... he'll survive as long as the two girls will care for him...

 

 
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