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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dingo View Post
    Ah so Nuri's regenerative abilities are different from Thousand Arms. When his senses alert him to potential, trauma his body readies itself to regenerate. Similar to the fight and flight responds in the parasympathetic nervous system. He can probably morph his body's structure so that it could more easily heal from damage. Like when his head was shot off, it could be that the head was a vital organ at the time. If he actually saw the attack coming, he would have morphed his internal structure so that the head is less vital.
    Yea, I really wonder if that ball Gantz 272 page 22 was a vital organ of him, his brain or just another attack form of his body (since we didn't see that the balls moved back into Nuri's body).
    As I said in my earlier theory, I think Nuri absorbs dead bodies do regain his health and matter ability. So maybe that was the reason he went away...

    If this arc will ever end (lol), I hope they don't get a boss in the next one that is stronger than Nuri...
    better would be some small fry aliens again to upgrade their points and improve.
    For those who survive this shit...

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    Missions and their "prizes" (just the estimated total counted):

    Onion Alien Mission: 4 points

    Tanaka Alien Mission: 68 points

    "Budha" Mission: (at least 23 points; points for the Kannon statue are unknown and considered 1 for the normal minions)

    Chibi Alien Mission: 30 points

    "Dino" Mission: 108 points

    Ring Alien Mission: 80 points

    Oni Alien Mission: (at least 200 points)

    Nurarihyon Mission: (at least 500 points)

    So the missions don't necessarily get harder. Proof of that is how sometimes there are only a small quantity of aliens and they're shitty (Onion alien mission). No doubt back in Izumi and Nishi's time they faced tougher enemies, Nishi himself states there were crazier nights. And the jeans aliens in Izumi's flashback, where apparently he got his 100 points, didn't seem weak either, though that's conjecture.

    But then again, it's Catastrophe we're talking about... but stronger than Nuri, should be over 9000 ^^ or either Galactus or zombie Galactus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morten View Post
    Yea, I really wonder if that ball Gantz 272 page 22 was a vital organ of him, his brain or just another attack form of his body (since we didn't see that the balls moved back into Nuri's body).
    It was probably a detachment to keep his assailants occupied and incapacitated while he was still recovering from Oka's attack. That might mean that there was something that they could have done to end the battle. But then why did Oka decide to leave? Maybe he forgot to bring his Y-Gun.

    As I said in my earlier theory, I think Nuri absorbs dead bodies do regain his health and matter ability. So maybe that was the reason he went away...
    Laws of Conservation of Matter and Energy. You can't create or destroy matter and energy, only convert between the two. Nuri can't just regenerate organic mass out of nowhere. After the extensive fight, he may have needed to find organic matter both living or otherwise to continue fighting. His most powerful ability seems to be his ability to adapt to his opponents and certain damage types. As long as he can anticipate what type of damage he might endure he can adjust his body to regenerate, that gives him the time to learn how to dispatch his opponent.

    If this arc will ever end (lol), I hope they don't get a boss in the next one that is stronger than Nuri...
    better would be some small fry aliens again to upgrade their points and improve.
    I doubt that they'll face any meta-Nuri afterwards. I think the next arcs will focus more on the ramifications of having two vampires on their team. Kato might try to contact Anzu to learn more about the Osaka Team (something tells me that they won't be taken back to the same room).

    For those who survive this shit...
    Actually I think that the Tokyo Team will suffer less casualties in this mission than the Osakans (aside from the typical noob-head-a-splosions that seem to occur in nearly every mission). So far the only one who's more than likely dead is Sakata. Sure people like Baldy and Takeshi have been put of out commission and seriously injured but they've been taken to back lines (seems that Reika's taken on the role of field medic). I think the only danger they really face now would be from blood loss which, let's face it, doesn't really fit Oku's style of killing off cast. There's also the possibility of Nuri finishing them off but I don't see that happening until he's killed or incapacitated the mobile members.

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    My thoughts on Nuri's power and transformations now that Katou says what he says. Being snuck up on reduces Nuri's ablitlity to transform. This is because Nuri probably is able to judge and choose his next moves and transformation beforehand. If he is caught offguard however, he has lost his upperhand and his prepared transformations. Therefore if the Tokyo team was to sneak attack the damn thing and catch it off guard, then quickly destroy the remains, it will not be able to react. This is all hypothesis streaming out of Katou's words of course. The sense thing is that he is able to control the transformation only when he wants to, yet is unable to when he cannot react consciously to the factors around him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dingo View Post
    Laws of Conservation of Matter and Energy. You can't create or destroy matter and energy, only convert between the two. Nuri can't just regenerate organic mass out of nowhere. After the extensive fight, he may have needed to find organic matter both living or otherwise to continue fighting. His most powerful ability seems to be his ability to adapt to his opponents and certain damage types. As long as he can anticipate what type of damage he might endure he can adjust his body to regenerate, that gives him the time to learn how to dispatch his opponent.
    You must remember, however, that this is Gantz we're talking about. As much as I like Morten's theory, which follows the Law of Conservation, we've already seen that law being neglected in Kishimoto's case. Of course, it was Gantz and not Nuri who created matter, but that means it's something possible. Anyway, I'm one of those that think although Nuri has regenerated endlessly so far, he must have a sort of limit eventually, so I'm actually just being nosy.

    @ Popo: I so hope that's true, because it makes sense and somehow takes away all my "gee, Oku and his invincible annoying alien" thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali View Post
    You must remember, however, that this is Gantz we're talking about. As much as I like Morten's theory, which follows the Law of Conservation, we've already seen that law being neglected in Kishimoto's case. Of course, it was Gantz and not Nuri who created matter, but that means it's something possible.
    Gantz seems to have the ability to effortlessly convert matter and energy back and forth. Many of the new member's bodies seem to disappear because Gantz converts all of their remains. I also think that's what happens to the remains of aliens killed or sent as well as Gantz members killed and equipment damaged in battle. Gantz just picks up every atom and can restore it to new (ala FMA radio repair). As for Kishimoto, well we don't know what type of reserves of energy Gantz has access to. Gantz may not have picked up Kishimoto's remains but he may have created her copy from reserve energy and matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dingo View Post
    Gantz seems to have the ability to effortlessly convert matter and energy back and forth. Many of the new member's bodies seem to disappear because Gantz converts all of their remains. I also think that's what happens to the remains of aliens killed or sent as well as Gantz members killed and equipment damaged in battle. Gantz just picks up every atom and can restore it to new (ala FMA radio repair). As for Kishimoto, well we don't know what type of reserves of energy Gantz has access to. Gantz may not have picked up Kishimoto's remains but he may have created her copy from reserve energy and matter.
    Don't know about that. We saw in the first arc that the brain chips explode after the remaining survivers got back to the room...
    Gantz 19 page 09
    Gantz 19 page 10
    Of course, there's no witness of the corpse after that, maybe that changed after the conditions of the Oni Alien mission. Maybe the chips just explode, cuz' Gantz dismantles the area after the arc is over...
    About the aliens getting sended by the Y-Gun being received by the Gantz Ball as matter: Now that's interesting speculation. It would've been more logical than just sending them to space though...
    Well, even Nishi didn't know where they get send...
    Gantz 18 page 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by y0ungSir View Post
    When Oka attacked him from behind with his sword it too him a LONG time to regenerate. It took longer than it usually took him.
    Maybe he was thinking, how he could fuck them up further, while having as much fun as possible. And Nishi hit him hard with a suprise attack as well, he still regenerated out of a pool of blood, immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morten View Post
    About the aliens getting sended by the Y-Gun being received by the Gantz Ball as matter: Now that's interesting speculation. It would've been more logical than just sending them to space though...
    Well, even Nishi didn't know where they get send...
    Gantz 18 page 10
    Maybe there is a big Gantz ball in the sky?

 

 
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