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    Ferozban is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellow_Yellow View Post
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    We all know that oka has cleared 100 points and we can see all the gadgets he got for that right!? Well what about nob, george and kuwabara? some of them had cleared two or three times and yet they only have the pancake gun? What was there other rewards? The sword?
    guys! kurono allready used a sword in the oni mission. (while izumi had his sword with him). dont you remeber the final fight against the oni boss?

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    So, let's get this straight yet again.

    The sword and the bike are NOT 100 points equipments.

    The 3-s only beat the game once and each had h-guns.

    There was only one guy who wasn't mentioned by Anzu and was carrying a h-gun at the beginning of the mission and that was the guy who got his head chopped off by Ami-kiri (the scissor handed bird-snake) . Later, George offer this guy his gun, so maybe that scene at the beginning was just that guy using George's h-gun because at the time George didn't need it (such a friendly guy, huh?).

    Quote Originally Posted by Vernand View Post
    Hmm... Actually, this is all quite interesting. Now that I think about it, there may be a small chance that Izumi's hundred point weapon is still available back in the Gantz Room.

    For one thing, Izumi said "Get it ready for the start of the next mission", so we know he never held onto it. Secondly, if the weapon was made available in the room that has always been locked, not the one with the gantz bikes and everything else, would they even think to check it at all? Or would they just assume that it was locked as always?
    I agree with you on that; new equipment shouldn't just pop up in the "old equipment" room, much less inside the ball. But I think there's more to that yet to see room, like some sort of identification to set straight which equipment belongs to who (maybe). Some people have considered the idea of a locker, for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali View Post
    So, let's get this straight yet again.

    The sword and the bike are NOT 100 points equipments.

    The 3-s only beat the game once and each had h-guns.

    There was only one guy who wasn't mentioned by Anzu and was carrying a h-gun at the beginning of the mission and that was the guy who got his head chopped off by Ami-kiri (the scissor handed bird-snake) . Later, George offer this guy his gun, so maybe that scene at the beginning was just that guy using George's h-gun because at the time George didn't need it (such a friendly guy, huh?).



    I agree with you on that; new equipment shouldn't just pop up in the "old equipment" room, much less inside the ball. But I think there's more to that yet to see room, like some sort of identification to set straight which equipment belongs to who (maybe). Some people have considered the idea of a locker, for instance.
    Yes but what if some more powerful weapons are not just granted to the person who won them but to his entire team?

    In anycase i am wondering why do you think that george and the rest have finished the game more than once and yet only have the H-gun to show for it?

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    ^ That's a doubt all of us have and it doesn't seen we'll get a clear answear anytime soon.

    It could be a matter of preference, and it might be that if there were different items, maybe they weren't quite as useful as the h-gun, or quite as destructive. There's also that question about the cables plugged in Kurono's sword at 248 front page... And vodahn's theory of each normal weapon having an upgraded version, which so far seems likely. Pratically no one uses the y-gun, so maybe no one would use its upgraded version... And there's of course, the theory that the stronger weapon you get depends on the weapon you use the most. Theories, theories.

    At least Oka had a new suit (considering its power, I don't think NKG had one too, so to get a super suit, at least 500 pts is needed - NKG's top had only 4 wins), a flying unit, a mecha and a h-gun. Fours items and 7 wins.

    Even if the point scope software is provided by Gantz, I don't think it comes as a 100 pts prize, for that matter; it's too specific for that; "bring up your laptop and receive a neat point scope software", that sounds like a no to me.

    And certainly the h-gun can be used by other team members; we've seen Nishi, we've seen that Osakan guy too. George even offered the weapon, so there's no restriction to that. What we do not know is whether the weapon stays in the game if the one who brought it to the game dies. We know that all equipments is replenished in the room, except for the suits(and most likely controllers, since they come in the suit case).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali View Post
    We know that all equipments is replenished in the room, except for the suits(and most likely controllers, since they come in the suit case).
    In the manga, the controllers are shown on the rack. Were they in the suit cases in the anime? Or did some early issues of the manga have them in with the suits?

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    Your part about the other guy having 400 points, but not having all the stuff the 700 point guy had, has a major flaw, as he could've used some of them to bring back the dead.

    But there won't be anyway of knowing for certain, until an updated version of the Gantz Manual comes out, or the writer reveals information in an interview, or publishes it in the manga itself.

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    ^ I believe there's a page in the manga that clearly shows a controller together with a suit inside a case, but maybe I'm wrong. I'll check on this later.

    There isn't really a flaw; Anzu's reaction at Katou wanting to revive someone implies no ressurection has taken place with the Osakan hunters. Of course, Anzu could've gotten there after it happened, but then there's the other guys who beat the game more than once and had only a h-gun to show. Somehow I doubt they are that much into reviving, but who knows.

    I think there'll be a second manual, but maybe only later on; Oku released the first manual when phase one was at volume 15.

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    Anyway, there's this possible explanation to all those guys only using h-guns:
    Oku's still clueless as to what the new equipment will be and it'd be too showy if they had several different pieces on them, not to say where would they put it? I still wonder how they managed to have x-riflex, x-guns, swords and h-guns with only one holster and two hands.

    Or, the classical one, which is the "needed foolishness". Like why no one uses the invisibility feature, or why didn't the Oni boss used his lightning against Kurono. So the Osakan team would only bring h-guns because they think it's enough contrary to reason instead of bringing an even more powerful weapon (if they did have it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferozban View Post
    many gantzers take some things back home. like kurono who took his suit back home.

    what do you think would have happend if kurono would have got 100 points in the dino mission and decided to become free.

    would gantz really let his suit exsist in the outsite world? or lets say some gantzer forgets his weapon at home (many take them with them), gets 100 points and is free.

    its rather unlikely that gantz would let the weapon exisist in the outsite world.
    As far as we know gantz (until the oni-mission) is very careful considering the outsite world, just speaking of gantz results in death.

    and we've allready seen that gantz deletes everything of dead players. hell, he clears the hole battlegrounds.

    so in my opinion this was obivous.

    PS: what do mean i'm back? i'm allways around (mostly in misc and gengeral anime/manga chat but i was never gone)
    That's a great point. I dono. I think It'd stop working or get deleted somehow. I didn't notice you're always around. I tend to pop up.
    Quote Originally Posted by peacemakerx View Post
    This is getting ridiculous...
    Osakan Spirit Bomb please...
    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
    Some people think way too hard about Nishi's role in this manga beside that you can barely see him in action.
    Let's call them Nishifags :P

 

 
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