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  1. #101
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    ^ Sorry to break this to you but it's highly unlikely that the Oni boss was a 100 pointer.
    If you go back a few pages on the latest manga thread (sorry about the earlier mistake) you can check the estimated quantity of the oni minions and the points the Gantzers got and do the maths yourself. (more precisely, here: http://stoptazmo.com/gantz/13038-lat...ssion-229.html - there's more than one post on the subject)
    And I seriously don't get why think Oka wouldn't know about the timer since he uses the controller. ¬¬ He's smart enough to run away from an invincible enemy, he wouldn't know how to check a controller, which he uses on a seemingly frequent basis? In case you don't know, one of the functions of the controller is show the timer - I mean, it used to be.
    And there's a flaw with your reasoning concerning the area; even if he's not aware, he'll be as soon as he trespass the area and the alarm starts ringing, he'll then head back, for he's not stupid.
    On Oka defeating a previous 100pointer, the "no aditional help from the team" is questionable, it was stated only a third of the team survived back at that time, which implies they were killed by the boss (although it could've been a tough mission and they might've gotten killed by the minions too), which means they also fought the boss, in which case, even if they got killed, they might have weakened him, we probably won't ever know for sure.
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    Let's be honest people - with oka walking away, we have absolutely no idea how things are going to end? Kaze going super saiyan as Takeshi dies? Takeshi might die with the first page of the next chapter - this is gantz after all, and besides, everytime the "better" gantzers have given in to emotion, they have invariably been killed/rendered useless (Kurono, quite a few times, Izumi the human shield, Katou screaming his ass off instead of keeping his eyes on the boss...), so we can't put any money on Kaze. KatouCherry was looking good, until Katou decided to noob it with the katana and allowed nuri to split his arse all over the place. HS is still finishing his cigarette off-page, and in the meantime, the injured gantzers are bleeding to death (not that i care for inaba, but Nishi and Kuwie Buwie have me concerned).
    Anyway, a theory i don't think has been mentioned before - the marbles, aren't really an attack, but disseminating "eggs/seeds" that are going to grow in lotsa small nasty things everywhere... (e.g. plants, or small nuris...)
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    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
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    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    ^ You know, if we consider the unexpected, the whole team getting killed and Katou surviving and bringing back Kurono is a good bet; we all are inclined to think these "main cast" would survive, or at least Cherry and Kaze - characters that have had a certain emphasis before.
    On the other hand, the title of the 2nd phase is Catastrophe (the above would also be a catastrophe anyway), and if the current team, which is strong (most agree on this anyway) dies out, it's doubtful a new team would fare that good in even more dangerous missions, so the team should survive.
    On Nuri, maybe that was only an attack and he'll regenerate and continue to use the body previously sliced up by Oka.
    Considering how much time has passed, I don't think those guys are gonna survive, most likely Nishi will, for his wounds weren't as serious (only one arm...)

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    The more I think about it, the possibility of the whole Tokyo Team dying except Katou (and possibly Nishi and the vamps, since they were just brought back or put in the game) seems more and more likely. Furthermore, if Katou is the one to kill Nuri, nab the 100 points and then accidentally bring back Kishimoto instead by saying asking Gantz to bring back "Kei-chan", then it would seriously be a 'catastrophe'.

    I'm not a Kishimoto-hater, but I do agree that Katou wasting the 100 points on bringing her back while only he and a few others remain, would be a catastrophe for the Tokyo Team. The further loss in skilled players would make the next hunts very interesting.

    My big prediction?

    - 273: Takeshi dies next chapter, Kaze goes nuts, Nuri takes up another form. Kaze tries to fight it while the rest of the Tokyo Team stands around like n00bs and Kaze is killed.

    - 274: After that, maybe the rest of the Tokyo Team starts doing stuff in the next chapter but Reika (and possibly Anzu) is killed aswell.

    - 275: With only two Gantzers left to fight, we finally get the Cherry-Katou combo: Cherry holds Nuri down with his psychic powers and keeps him from transforming, while Katou sends him with the Y-Gun. But Cherry collapses, bleeding all over, having used too much of his power and the sending starts.

    - 276: We get back to the room and only Katou, Nishi and the vamps turn out to be alive (though the vamp-girl might be dead aswell). Nishi will have turned out to have scored 81 points or higher (but just below 100), having stolen the Tengu-kill and a few minor aliens off-screen while invisible. Host Samurai would either have about 3, 21 or 30 points (having killed one weird creature and the two samurai-aliens; according to Kyou, small ones are worth 1 and big ones are worth 10 in Osaka). Katou will have 103 points, 112 or 121 (having killed one weird alien, the big alien, the small one and Nuri), chooses option 3 and asks Gantz to bring back "Kei-chan". Gantz, being a dick, interprets that Katou wants Kei Kishimoto back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilit Prince View Post
    The more I think about it, the possibility of the whole Tokyo Team dying except Katou (and possibly Nishi and the vamps, since they were just brought back or put in the game) seems more and more likely. Furthermore, if Katou is the one to kill Nuri, nab the 100 points and then accidentally bring back Kishimoto instead by saying asking Gantz to bring back "Kei-chan", then it would seriously be a 'catastrophe'.

    I'm not a Kishimoto-hater, but I do agree that Katou wasting the 100 points on bringing her back while only he and a few others remain, would be a catastrophe for the Tokyo Team. The further loss in skilled players would make the next hunts very interesting.

    My big prediction?

    - 273: Takeshi dies next chapter, Kaze goes nuts, Nuri takes up another form. Kaze tries to fight it while the rest of the Tokyo Team stands around like n00bs and Kaze is killed.

    - 274: After that, maybe the rest of the Tokyo Team starts doing stuff in the next chapter but Reika (and possibly Anzu) is killed aswell.

    - 275: With only two Gantzers left to fight, we finally get the Cherry-Katou combo: Cherry holds Nuri down with his psychic powers and keeps him from transforming, while Katou sends him with the Y-Gun. But Cherry collapses, bleeding all over, having used too much of his power and the sending starts.

    - 276: We get back to the room and only Katou, Nishi and the vamps turn out to be alive (though the vamp-girl might be dead aswell). Nishi will have turned out to have scored 81 points or higher (but just below 100), having stolen the Tengu-kill and a few minor aliens off-screen while invisible. Host Samurai would either have about 3, 21 or 30 points (having killed one weird creature and the two samurai-aliens; according to Kyou, small ones are worth 1 and big ones are worth 10 in Osaka). Katou will have 103 points, 112 or 121 (having killed one weird alien, the big alien, the small one and Nuri), chooses option 3 and asks Gantz to bring back "Kei-chan". Gantz, being a dick, interprets that Katou wants Kei Kishimoto back.
    That seems possible, but I think 275 would be the Vampire killing Nuri. Not the Kato-Cherry combo.

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    Man all i can say is that i am really starting to hate this. We have been watching same fricken mission for a year plus. I am starting to feel like the manga is now running as slow as the anime. Almost reminds of watching dbz all those years ago . . . the planet namek will blow up in 5 minutes. . . (two weeks later). . .the planet namek will blow up in 4 minutes and 59 seconds . . .

    On another note it seems that gantz is actually starting to get popular here in Japan. I actually saw an ad for it on the train the other day which used that very masterful drawing of kato that we have been seeing so much of lately, and every thursday when i pop into the combini to read the latest gantz there are at least two guys already standing their holding a copy of young jump. They are either looking at gantz or checking out the cover girls. So what ever Oku thinks he is doing it seems to be working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by y0ungSir View Post
    That seems possible, but I think 275 would be the Vampire killing Nuri. Not the Kato-Cherry combo.
    True, that's also a possibility. But you'd think that Oku would have hinted someone else was watching the fight by now, right? Also, it would have to be an entirely new ability: cutting or shooting Nuri has proven absolutely useless and if the vamps had another ability, why didn't they use it against Izumi when he was giving them such a hard time?

    Freezing Nuri and then sending him or an entirely new weapon seems to be the only option.

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    @Twilit: I say it won't turn out this way, just because everyone dying as a possibility is too obvious after the end of the buddha arc.
    But if you are that confident, well...
    okay people, place your bets... I expect a size 7 apology if you are wrong as early as the next chapter, I will be posting a size 7 praise of L337ness for everyone of them you get right... are you game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilit Prince View Post
    True, that's also a possibility. But you'd think that Oku would have hinted someone else was watching the fight by now, right? Also, it would have to be an entirely new ability: cutting or shooting Nuri has proven absolutely useless and if the vamps had another ability, why didn't they use it against Izumi when he was giving them such a hard time?

    Freezing Nuri and then sending him or an entirely new weapon seems to be the only option.
    Not that HS can be any help, it's just likely that he'll try because it would be weird for him to not be seen for 10 chapters and suddenly appears back in the room saying; 'I was smoking a fag'. That would be very uncool...

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    About the aliens that HS and Kato took out;

    So far (I havent read this new chapter yet as Ive only dled it), Kato has taken out a One-eyed Head yokai with his y-gun and then killed a Huge Alien with a tall hat by sending his head alone. The little one that preceded the Huge one was not seen being attacked or sent (though Kato could have done it).
    If the little ones are 1 and the bigger ones 10 (though I believe the points will be more varied than this), Kato has roughly 21 points now.

    HS took out the two Dualists (by slicing off their limbs and leaving them, we never see him give them a mortal wound) and also a Horse yokai which if you look carefully has a rider on it which gets killed too (Chiaki Kuriyama also called the yokai "they" to confirm this).
    HS would have roughly 40 points now (though the rider might be a 1 pter, making it 31 points instead).

    Going on this though, Takeshi would have 20 points, taking out the Ao-nyobo, then 10 on-screen little yokai, and Kaze would have 10 points by killing that "Gimme back our land" yokai.

 

 
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