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    Shin_Igami is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Quote Originally Posted by livan627 View Post
    Now other comments. A big one that I want to make is just what's exactly happening with the changes and how much are the changes controlled by Gantz. Is Gantz just having fun? Or is Gantz losing control? Why are aliens getting stronger and stronger? If all the members of Gantz team died... who's gona kill the aliens?
    My friend, you have a knack for asking questions no one has answers to...
    That said, on the issue of aliens getting stronger... well based on what we have seen in Osaka, there is far more to the world than just "one" gantz team. It may be that missions are not getting more and more difficult (i.e there are easy and hard missions), but instead "our" gantz team is being exposed to the harder ones.
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    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
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    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    Were the past missions prep for tokyo team? Wouldn't that mean the Osaka team be known about for long time now? It seems they would've bypassed all that ages ago and everybody would already see them / know them. All these changes seem to be Gantz pushing the panic button more than planning them.

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    Someone somewhere (read: Cali, in all likelihood) posted something on the cloaking breakdown being a change of rules for all gantz, not just one. The implications of this theory is that it happened with in one of "our" gantz missions, and that all Gantz missions after that (there is a rather large time void between the end of the oni arc and the end of phase 1) were without cover. I'd say, based on this, that the osakans may have had one, or two uncloaked missions at most. That said, the scale of the current Osaka mission is, even according to the osakans, something massive even according to their standards.
    I don't think it was "prep" in any way. Gantz seems to deal with the mission at hand with what he has. Osaka seems to point that he makes rough evaluations as to how many Gantzers are needed to clear the mission when deciding how many people are needed, and generally meeting his objectives by a fairly tight margin. He does factor in skill, apparently, he still favors numbers when missions get harder -> Harder Missions = More people being brought in. Experience is good, but Gantz does not seem to value it very highly. As the osaka arc proves, experience is not equal to skill, or even an ability to finish the mission without casualties.
    Something I said before - The osakans are used to clearing easy-medium difficulty missions by relying on their 100 points weapons. When things go bad, they have oka. Hence their "it's just a game to break the monotony of life" attitude. They just found out it wasn't...
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    The stuff about Phase 2 and 3 is interesting, but I do not see the aliens allowing Gantzers on hunts on their terms unless we're talking about rival alien factions (which could mean in-space or off-world hunts). This faction may even be the rebels that care only for violence.
    As for the faction searching for secrets, the German group and tech development, they could get together on a forum on Nishi's website (Im sure there would be one on there, plus now that Nishi is back, he'll be updating it again). German group members may even get involved.
    Weapon tech, the Point Scope could have been an original Gantz item, as in Osaka and probably other places, members of whatever group created the orbs, such as the German group, could have been the original Osaka hunters with unique stuff like that. Tokyo might have been the same (it may be in the anime, but Nishi mentioned [in a lie, admittedly], his father was involved with the Gantz development, Nishi could have been put on the team with possibly his dad) but lost their unique gear or Point Scopes, if the Point Scope is not a 100 point item.
    This is all conjecture (again), but in a way its sorta my own rationales and predictions, but feel free to flame/agree/debate.

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    @ikari: Nishi website is more like a blog or journal , if it had a forum Kurono would have found it. I always thought the website was a way for Nishi to contact other Gantzers. I think Gantz would tolerate Nishi having an online journal but not a forum where information can be assessed by anyone.
    Though I do agree that there a grain of truth somewhere in Nishi's lies.

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    Fair enough about Nishi's website, its just the French translation of it that GantzOtaku put online as an actual page had "Forum" on the left column. Also I just figured that Gantz can listen into what the hunter's are doing and know when a weapon is fired near people (using a Controller GPS or an Eva "astral pattern"-type scanner probably), but couldnt actually see what hunters were doing, thus Nishi could make a website and as long as he didnt mention it, he'd never be found out.

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    ^ I think the monitoring is a bit more specific. If Gantz only knew when a gun was fired, then he'd have allowed Tetsu to shoot those other zoku people he messed with before killing him. In that case, there were far too many people, so he wasn't even allowed to fire the gun, whereas when there's only one person, like the guy he tried to sell the gun to, is easily neutralized, therefore not posing any threat.

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    Also, remember when Kurono shoots down the last Chibi - when he is seen by an officer, I think we are shown the bomb - Of course might just be Kurono overeacting, but it would seem that Gantz is very focused on his players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    I don't think there is a big time leap between the oni mission and kurono's death, no changes at all in the tokyo team, the vampires attacking as they said they would and kurono just starting fixing his relationship with tae point at two months top one week bottom. We can also consider that the bigger break has been just about 3 months, though I would have to recheck the manual for that, but they/kurono got some kind of xmas holydays after the chibi mission.

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    It was Xmas Eve for the Tanaka alien hunt. It was about April (and the start of Kurono, Tae and Izumi's (also possibly Reika, though she's younger than Kurono by an unspecified number of months) third high school year) when the Tae mission happened. I'll also have to RTFM to confirm.
    Last edited by ikari; 05-09-2008 at 01:18 AM.

 

 
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