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    ikari is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    I beg to differ with Shin on the post above about Gantz choosing whoever. HS would not have been summoned to the Gantz room if he didnt hold Old Man Suzuki. I think anyone who would hold an existing hunter on transportation would be recruited and implanted.
    And yeah, Gantz can remotely detonate any implant, but he does it for a reason, like -

    -walking out the hunt zone
    -telling someone about Gantz, seems to be lax on that since the Oni hunt
    -getting rid of the dead hunters at the hunts end to get rid of evidence

    Gantz has never remote detonated an implant so far for any other reason. Although I agree on that Gantz's choice of the revived seem a little dark (an old lady and child with no combat skill at all). But I believe that Gantz's hunts are set so he can only revive people who died within the same 24 hours, thus restricting the choices a bit (and keeping time lag out, imagine a hunter finishes thier 1st hunt to realise he has been gone for a month and not just the night). Also Gantz complained to Izumi to get new hunters in with that little ball, thus leading to Izumi actually fixing a date and going on his massacre. Gantz then displays how he was tired of everyone being so weak lately and how he wanted strong people. Yeah, Gantz probably does have favourites (the strong people), but its out of even his omnipotent power just to recruit all uber soldier types.

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    ^ On Gantz summoning the vampires rather than they actually accomplishing an invasion, it's been debated that it was all in accordance to Gantz will, since he could've halted the transfer anyway or just have something done to preserve his safety; we've already seen an example of Gantz selecting what's being brought to the room once - when Katou is revived, he no longer possess the sword he got from 1000 arms. And there were suits prepared for the vampires, so it's unlikely it was a surprise.

    On the weak/useless people brought into the room, I believe it's just the fun of the human element. Bringing in a naked girl, with two yakuza and a guy with a heavy sense of righteousness and see the shit it happens. But bear in mind that although weak people are summoned, with the suits and the proper conditions, they can fare quite well (old man, takeshi). Also, on Gantz not picking only Izumi-like people - since we can assume he could - that adds for the idea of fun... and also that although Gantz makes it seem like he's wanting to rid the world from the aliens, it's more like he doesn't give a shit to who wins or not, as long as there's amusement for him, so a strong one is always summoned, regardless of how many weak people are around. Needless to say this is just conjecture.

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    Like Cali said, it's all conjecture, at best, so yeah Ikari is perfectly justified in saying what he says. That said...I do think Gantz is omnipotent, personally. Remember Kei - he made a photocopy of a human being. I think that warping dead people is just a question of convenience - if they mess up and die, then no one can really trace it to Gantz, because everyone else has seen them die already. Also, dying once goes a long a way in giving people the gantz attitude - they go all out so as not to die again.
    Quote Originally Posted by ikari View Post
    I beg to differ with Shin on the post above about Gantz choosing whoever.
    Completely off topic - I guess you agree with everything else then, especially PoPo's MOD-ness. Nyuhuhu...
    Last edited by Shin_Igami; 03-29-2008 at 04:14 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    Remember Kei - he made a photocopy of a human being. I think that warping dead people is just a question of convenience - if they mess up and die, then no one can really trace it to Gantz, because everyone else has seen them die already. Also, dying once goes a long a way in giving people the gantz attitude - they go all out so as not to die again.
    Touché.

    I'd like to add a few thoughts on that too; bringing in people who have died rather than normal living people adds to the psychological effect of the whole thing. They've just been given life, so to speak, if they stop and consider it, they would/should be astonished by Gantz powers. Also, as Gantz himself says, their lives have ended, how they use their new lives is entirely up to him. This is curious: those idiots should actually be thankful cause, after all, they died and Gantz gave them another chance. Certainly, it comes with an equally dangerous cost, but all in all, they own him their current lives as well as their possible deaths.

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    "Yawns" 11.38 pm here ya know. Thought about that Cali, but was too lazy for another 600+ word gauntlet.
    There's much more you could say to support the Reviving dead people for Convenience argument, but I leave it to you ppl to agree or disagree with this. Anyways, I really think Gantz is selective when it comes to choosing people - I think that he really likes everything that happens when obviously incapable people are thrown in. If a human life has no value to you (i.e. if you were Gantz) then you could summon a Granny and her grandson, just to find out whether family ties will hold out in the end. How the two of them die is touching - if of course you can discount the fact they die.
    I really liked that part in the anime where Gantz actually smiles - it shows everything that happens is just entertainment for him, and he chooses people to achieve that effect. We have yet to see that happen in the manga, of course, so he may have some other motive here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

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    gantz happens in 20xx ...we have might proof of ganzters in a certain dates based off meteru no kimochi, as there are gantzers in that time, and it happens at the same time as the Hen series.

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    ^ I don't quite follow. What's the relevance of mentioning those other series?
    As for Gantz timeline, most would agree it's up to date, what we don't know is for how long has the ball been summoning hunters and assigning them missions.

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    Whoever put them in those spheres left them rules of course.

    They would have them there for a reason, which is to hunt the aliens, not screw around for their own amusement.

    Of course, as long as the job is getting done, they might not care if that agent screwed around a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thats the Theory Anyway View Post
    Whoever put them in those spheres left them rules of course.

    They would have them there for a reason, which is to hunt the aliens, not screw around for their own amusement.
    Well, we can only theorize as to why Gantz does what he does. Honestly, the arguments for doing it just out of fun seem to be actually a bit more numerous than just alien hunting. Do realize that putting a panda and a granny and a child to hunt aliens, or even putting any sort of untrained people to do so doesn't actually reflects something done out of seriousness.

    off-topic: BTW, your english seem a bit strange sometimes, not that I'm in any position to say something like that being not a native speaker myself and all. Just curious.

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    I personally believe that Gantz has absolutely no interest in Alien Hunting - It's just more fun to give random humans suits and have them "try" to kill aliens, than say, give the ubber powered Nuri a suit and have him slaughter every human being out there (we already know he can do it without a suit). Again, this argument would make much more sense if the last arc of the gantz anime had happened in the manga. As it is, it's all conjecture - Gantz arsenal, among other things, is designed to "make things interesting" rather than being functional - Take the "delay" on the gantz weapons - It may be an inherent weakness of the weapon, but if you were out to have fun then having a gun with a delay would make the game more fun - especially when you have to "plan ahead" to hit moving targets.

    Off-Topic:That said, I kind of agree with Cali on That's the theory's english - It is kind of hard to follow at times - but like Cali, English isn't my native language (French is), so I am not in any position to say anything either...
    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    its kinda pathetic how much time people (including me) on this thread spend thinking about every little thing that goes on in Gantz
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_Igami View Post
    I suppose it comes from not having any new Gantz to talk about... I feel like a Junkie... o.O

 

 
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