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    Tousen is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Default Izumi Flashbacks

    Not sure if someone already posted a similar idea but I didn't see one.

    I've been thinking about the flashbacks Izumi has before the Dino Mission. The ones that show his old teammates. It still bothers me a little that Nishi isn't in any of the flashbacks. Also, for some reason those guys in the flashbacks look pretty strong to me. I find it hard to believe that they would all die while Nishi survived. And it was obvious that Nishi and Izumi were both well aware of the fact that there were other Gantz teams.

    This all got me thinking. Maybe, just maybe Nishi & Izumi weren't on the same team. Maybe Nishi was on Tokyo and Izumi was originally on the Osaka (or some other place) team and they met during a mission just like how Osaka and Tokyo are meeting now. That would explain why Nishi would remember him yet not be present in the room when Izumi chose to be freed from Gantz. It would also kind of explain why Izumi didn't recognize Nishi. He was probably hiding in stealth the whole mission so its natural that Izumi wouldn't remember him. And if the scoring for joint missions is done in seperate rooms then theres a chance he never saw him at all.

    So if Izumi was part of Osaka, maybe one of those guys in his flashback was actually Oka before he got all super suited up (cue surprising dramatic music). So after the mission when Katou gets 100 points and says he wants to revive Kei, Oka sees Izumis face on the screen next to his and decides to revive him too just for kicks. Shoot, it's not like he's short on points to do it.

    Thoughts, idea's, theories, holes....

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    "I find it hard to believe that they would all die while Nishi survived. "
    Maybe they didn't die but they chose to be released instead (just like Izumi did). Nishi sucks so he has to stay ^^.

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    Well I said that because I get the sense that they were people Izumi may have actually respected. Izumi doesn't respect weak people. So 3 people strong enough for Izumi to somewhat respect (though we don't know for sure if he respected them) dieing while Nishi gets a butt load of points doesn't make sense to me.

    But your right, they could have gotten enough point's to leave. But if they were like Izumi (competitive, driven...crazy) maybe they decided to keep fighting. Personally, I don't think Nishi suck so to speak. He did almost get 100 points. But I do think he's at times highly overrated.

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    I am sure i have suggested that Izumi may not have been from the Tokyo gantz team his first time round. The suggestive evidence that i gave at that time was that Izumi was a transfer student to Kurono's school which implies that up until that time he may not have lived in Tokyo thus would not have been selected for Tokyo's gantz team had he died.

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    However, Nishi said that Izumi used to be the Gantz team leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tousen View Post
    This all got me thinking. Maybe, just maybe Nishi & Izumi weren't on the same team. Maybe Nishi was on Tokyo and Izumi was originally on the Osaka (or some other place) team and they met during a mission just like how Osaka and Tokyo are meeting now. That would explain why Nishi would remember him yet not be present in the room when Izumi chose to be freed from Gantz. It would also kind of explain why Izumi didn't recognize Nishi. He was probably hiding in stealth the whole mission so its natural that Izumi wouldn't remember him. And if the scoring for joint missions is done in seperate rooms then theres a chance he never saw him at all.
    They were on the same team alright. Nishi remembers Izumi picking freedom - which in my opinion will lead him not to choose it since he'd be vulnerable due to memory loss and there would be a chance he'd be summoned again. And the room is big, those other guys were clearly closer to Izumi and might have encouraged him to get free like the current Tokyo team did to Kurono. It's also interesting noticing that Izumi wasn't as fond of risking his life and the excitement of battle before, after all he had a reason to choose freedom. Only he had to let go of the memory of that reason, such a tragic thing. Since Nishi probably wasn't the active type, he wasn't shown in Izumi's memories and wasn't really particular remarkable. Also, in story terms, it's more interesting not showing Nishi on the flashbacks so it leads to theories and discussions. Like Oka never showing his face in 4 volumes. It's possible both Nishi and Izumi witnessed a double team hunt before, but I don't think they were on different teams since they got back to the same room. And Nishi wouldn't just remember Izumi from one single hunt to the point of talking to him like he did. Also, he said Izumi was the leader before, so that pretty much settles it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellow_Yellow View Post
    I am sure i have suggested that Izumi may not have been from the Tokyo gantz team his first time round. The suggestive evidence that i gave at that time was that Izumi was a transfer student to Kurono's school which implies that up until that time he may not have lived in Tokyo thus would not have been selected for Tokyo's gantz team had he died.
    Thaaaaaaaaaaaaats what it was!!! He was a transfer. I knew I was forgetting to mention something. I doubt he would be on the Tokyo team if he didn't live (or at least die) in Tokyo. So Nishi likely remembers him from some team up that occured before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cali View Post
    They were on the same team alright. Nishi remembers Izumi picking freedom - which in my opinion will lead him not to choose it since he'd be vulnerable due to memory loss and there would be a chance he'd be summoned again. And the room is big, those other guys were clearly closer to Izumi and might have encouraged him to get free like the current Tokyo team did to Kurono. It's also interesting noticing that Izumi wasn't as fond of risking his life and the excitement of battle before, after all he had a reason to choose freedom. Only he had to let go of the memory of that reason, such a tragic thing. Since Nishi probably wasn't the active type, he wasn't shown in Izumi's memories and wasn't really particular remarkable. Also, in story terms, it's more interesting not showing Nishi on the flashbacks so it leads to theories and discussions. Like Oka never showing his face in 4 volumes. It's possible both Nishi and Izumi witnessed a double team hunt before, but I don't think they were on different teams since they got back to the same room. And Nishi wouldn't just remember Izumi from one single hunt to the point of talking to him like he did. Also, he said Izumi was the leader before, so that pretty much settles it.
    That could be because Nishi was at the Izumis final mission because teh 2 teams went to the same room. Possible. And I do believe that it is possible for Nishi to remember him from one mission. Izumi is the type to leave an impression whatever he does. Even outside of Gantz he's ridiculously popular because of his height, looks and skill. I have no doubt that he would be just as impressive to other Gantzers during missions. Especially the way he played the game. As far as him being their leader...maybe there was more than one team up, or maybe he took charge of the mission from the start and led both teams. Maybe he was an "area" leader lol.
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    About Izumi being a transfer student, is there only one school in Tokyo?

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    I doubt all the remaining hunters will show up in one room, but I guess we'll just have to wait for this mission to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali View Post
    About Izumi being a transfer student, is there only one school in Tokyo?
    I seriously doubt that. But the idea is that he transfered to Tokyo from another area outside of Tokyo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaosu Rah View Post
    I doubt all the remaining hunters will show up in one room, but I guess we'll just have to wait for this mission to end.
    Yep. This is only a theory so far. If they do all go to the same room it would make this a lot more interesting.

 

 
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