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    I for one thinks this may be the arc to setup a new Team Tokyo.

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    Yean, it looks bad for the rest of Team Tokyo. Did anyone see how Nuri slices those people apart? It looked like he just walked by and they exploded/ disintegrated. Art was awesome though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    It's true that seeing Kurono fight against the oni boss and motivating all the others changed something.
    But I doubt it's Inaba. There is just no proof for me that he did. Going out and fighting the boss or doing something besides hiding would've been, but he didn't do that.
    What did change was his opinion of Kurono (possibly).
    But that's no proof that he'll stop being anything besides being useless, yet.

    And even if he did that now against Nuri I wouldn't like it much.
    He started as an useless ass. If he starts fighting now it shows he starts to change or has changed. But in between we only have the possibility that he changed his opinion of Kei.
    That's just to sudden for me. There is no real character development in that.

    But it's not really Oku's forte to do that, so who knows.

    I never said a large significant change had happened, he is still a coward he is not going to be a complete new person during the course of one mission. It more of a small subtle change. Maybe I am being too much of an optimist but I think that Inaba can become a better person and Gantzer. Remember that Kei also stated out like Inaba cowardly selfish somewhat of a pervert and see how much he changed during Gantz.

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    But Kei was the main character of the story. So he got almost all the character development of the story. The explained development anyways (not counting something like Izumi dying for his girlfriend out of the blue).
    I doubt Oku will do something like that for Inaba. If he wanted, why wait so long? But it could happen, and it's never wrong to be optimistic.


    Quote Originally Posted by etufo View Post
    I for one thinks this may be the arc to setup a new Team Tokyo.
    I'd like to know what people think about that.

    I have my doubts. Sure, they seem to be fucked with Nuri appearing and nowhere to flee to (plus Oka seems busy and probably won't get there that fast).
    But would Oku really kill most of them?
    The team is in that formation for a long time and the readers probably grew accustomed to many of them. If only a few die, wouldn't the rest revive them?
    So pretty much all have to die to start over with a new team.
    Hs and Nishi are only in for a short time, so killing them would be pointless. Katou will also survive. Takeshi or Kaze will survive so one can revive the other (it's the same with the vampires). One of the esp guys will survive too.
    Seeing as Sakata is already a goner that leaves Cherry.

    So to me only Inaba, old man, Reika or Sakata are marked as "could die". Plus one of team vampire and musclerider.

    These open slots will be filled with new characters or possibly osakans, but the core of the team will remain.
    "For Feanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind, in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and subtlety alike, of all the Children of Illuvatar, and a bright flame was in him"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duststorm View Post
    I never said a large significant change had happened, he is still a coward he is not going to be a complete new person during the course of one mission. It more of a small subtle change.
    True. One small step I pray Oku will allow him to build upon because much like Nishi, Inaba has proven himself relatively useless time and time again. Unfortunately... Oku has wasted more than enough time with this mission to afford fleshing both characters out with little difficulty. And yet we've seen what just happened to Nishi while displaying zero growth whatsoever. He's still the same overbearingly confident bratty ass know-it-all parading around in stealth mode with his tail between his legs fueled by a false sense of security, ability, and arrogance. A dangerous cocktail infused with a technique so unrefined it led him to a well deserved grave. So yes, I guess one could say I agree wholeheartedly with SD on the Nishi discussion. His stance on the character is more than reasonable even dare I say... spot on at the moment. Nishi is one character I wouldn't have mind permanently exiled from the manga since Oku seemingly has no idea what his plans are for the character. =\

    Quote Originally Posted by etufo View Post
    I for one thinks this may be the arc to setup a new Team Tokyo.
    I know I wouldn't mind it in the very least. Most of Tokyo's members are either developed (Reika, Sakurai, Kato), getting there (Kaze), or collecting dust while wasting air (Gramps, Sakata, Inaba, Nishi and the kid). If Oku doesn't start devoting more time to his characters I may lose interest in this manga for good. I'm tired of reading a manga where the fans have nothing to look forward to except filler and multiple weekly breaks. The storyline is dragging at best and simply going nowhere right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharthavicious View Post
    I can't see Host Samurai doing anything as unselfish as bringing someone back. If Akira Kurono were on the team, I could see it, but not HS. It'd be amusing if he brought back old Gantzers only to feed on them later.
    We could use more cold-hearted bastards on the team, anyway.
    IMO, Blondie isn't so much dark as he is a professional at what he does in general. A loyal mercenary if you will. In order to gain more information on his targets I could see him reviving Shion or taking Nishi hostage provided said hostage has any relevant information. Unfortunately this mission has yet to reach a conclusion and we have no idea what will become of his or his partner's future. Thankfully judging by his nonchalant behavior after his fight with the alien samurai and willingness to temporarily "bury the hatchet" with his prey so to speak, it seems crystal clear his vamp duty won't affect his will to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneHiryuSaga View Post

    IMO, Blondie isn't so much dark as he is a professional at what he does in general. A loyal mercenary if you will. In order to gain more information on his targets I could see him reviving Shion or taking Nishi hostage provided said hostage has any relevant information. Unfortunately this mission has yet to reach a conclusion and we have no idea what will become of his or his partner's future. Thankfully judging by his nonchalant behavior after his fight with the alien samurai and willingness to temporarily "bury the hatchet" with his prey so to speak, it seems crystal clear his vamp duty won't affect his will to survive.
    Even if gets vital information about Gantz he cannot tell the other vampires since his head will explode assuming he does know about that and if he chooses freedom he will forgot all it of it. Since he killed some of the aliens he will be marked as an enemy and be killed like Kurono's brother.

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    If HS did get information on gantz he wouldnt have to share it with the other vamps. His story could unfold with him and Chigusa trying to destroy gantz from the inside. They just needed an army of vampires because they had no clue about the source of the 'hunters' and wanted to be able to get rid of as many as possible. With the majority of the vampire leaders dead who wuould host samurai tell anyway? some crappy underling that will get sliced/blown up in two seconds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duststorm View Post
    Even if gets vital information about Gantz he cannot tell the other vampires since his head will explode assuming he does know about that and if he chooses freedom he will forgot all it of it. Since he killed some of the aliens he will be marked as an enemy and be killed like Kurono's brother.
    Considering the fact that recruiting inexperienced people in order to hunt down aliens is seemingly Gantz's sole MO, I'm not so sure it's actually concerned with who or what does the killing so long as the missions are completed as instructed. Keep in mind Gantz had every opportunity to deal with the vampires beforehand yet continuously refused. We've all seen what happened to every confirmed threat to its normal operations and as such Blondie and his entire gang should have been targets long ago. Tae Kojima proved it has no preference when it comes to targets be them human, alien, or hybrid. Dispite this it never once went out of its way to interfer with frequent interactions between participant and vampire in and out of missions.

    Clearly whomever is in charge of the missions couldn't care less about them right now. And with the rules changing nearly every other mission there's little guarantee they'll care enough to do something about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyt741 View Post
    If HS did get information on gantz he wouldnt have to share it with the other vamps. His story could unfold with him and Chigusa trying to destroy gantz from the inside. They just needed an army of vampires because they had no clue about the source of the 'hunters' and wanted to be able to get rid of as many as possible. With the majority of the vampire leaders dead who wuould host samurai tell anyway? some crappy underling that will get sliced/blown up in two seconds?
    You would be right assuming that they only have one group of vampires. Judging that there a Gantz ball in Germany, and though Nishi and Izumi conservation. We can almost be sure that there are more Gantz teams around the world and since they are the vampire's enemy, we can guess that there are also more vampire organizations out there not just in Japan. I think they would would like to know why one of their own is siding with the enemy.

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    I didn't bother to read the whole thread but how is Nuri suppose to die? Nishi pretty much vaporized him into a pool of blood and he still came back. Send him away with the teleport gun?

 

 
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