Thread: tragic notions to why kurono won't be coming back for a long while

Originally Posted by Hadou

Also on the hair pulling thing, I thought you had to activate the suit in order to get the full protective effects. Plus it could have caught her off guard so she wasn't prepared to just suddenly be pulled back. Plus that girl was a VAMPIRE, which a few common features are, weakness to sun, increased speed, and increased strength, which has been shown through the series(see izumi vs vampires pt 1, 2, 3)
Also the matter of touching him while transferring, we have seen that they get paralysed (if they wernt then that that goes out the window) when they get transferred and 2 none of them even knew about the secret way to get into the gantz room so at the time touching him would have been pointless if they didn't have that knowlege and werent practically hugging him to death. Plus add to the fact that at that point I think they just wanted to get him to a hospital, ya know seeing as how he was almost cut in half when the transfer started. So it does make sense.

"Also on the hair pulling thing, I thought you had to activate the suit in order to get the full protective effects."- Nah, if it was so then Izumi would had shot Kurono dead ages ago (before he went on a rampage). Also in the earlier chapters, there was a scene where Katou didn't even show signs of veins popping up on his suit when he went just found his send-gun and some puny alien went judo kicking/chopping him out of nowhere and just took it , in the Buddhist arc.
"Plus that girl was a VAMPIRE, which a few common features are, weakness to sun, increased speed, and increased strength, which has been shown through the series(see izumi vs vampires pt 1, 2, 3)" Well vamp or not there were way too many aliens with signs of greater increase of strength and yet some gantz dude was able to rip of so and so arm or some other limb. From what I read, the suit reinforces the owner when the owner is in a state of panic or has their mind totally focused on doing xyz. That should of prevent the newbie vamp chick from over powering her, or at very least she can regrab Kurono with veins popping out.
"Also the matter of touching him while transferring, we have seen that they get paralysed (if they wernt then that that goes out the window) "
Ah, you got me on the paralyzed part. Totally forgot the embarrassing moments where Kurono get's fuxored by the manga creator right when he was about to be transfered. But regardless if they can move or not; when being transfered, and as stated previously, Reika should be able to hold on to Kurono or regrab him.
"when they get transferred and 2 none of them even knew about the secret way to get into the gantz room so at the time touching him would have been pointless if they didn't have that knowledge and werent practically hugging him to death." Nah she saw the oldman with other vamp and caught on the idea of grabbing him- which she did. Besides the person don't need to hug an item for transfer; being in contact with it is enough. How else on first chapter one of the yakuza was able to bring a regular bullet shooting pistol along? Kind of makes me wonder if it's possible to grab hold .... say a nuke and bring it to the room... and after a mission activate it and waste the ball. LOL. There should be a scene where a jack ass gantzer try to bring the damn ball (gantz) along for a mission.
"Plus add to the fact that at that point I think they just wanted to get him to a hospital, ya know seeing as how he was almost cut in half when the transfer started. So it does make sense" Won't make sense, since Reika stated she wants to bring the dying kurono along in hopes of a rez.

Originally Posted by Tut_01

Nah, if it was so then Izumi would had shot Kurono dead ages ago (before he went on a rampage). Also in the earlier chapters, there was a scene where Katou didn't even show signs of veins popping up on his suit when he went just found his send-gun and some puny alien went judo kicking/chopping him out of nowhere and just took it , in the Buddhist arc.
Well vamp or not there were way too many aliens with signs of greater increase of strength and yet some gantz dude was able to rip of so and so arm or some other limb. From what I read, the suit reinforces the owner when the owner is in a state of panic or has their mind totally focused on doing xyz. That should of prevent the newbie vamp chick from over powering her, or at very least she can regrab Kurono with veins popping out.
Ah, you got me on the paralyzed part. Totally forgot the embarrassing moments where Kurono get's fuxored by the manga creator right when he was about to be transfered. But regardless if they can move or not; when being transfered, and as stated previously, Reika should be able to hold on to Kurono or regrab him.
Nah she saw the oldman with other vamp and caught on the idea of grabbing him- which she did. Besides the person don't need to hug an item for transfer; being in contact with it is enough. How else on first chapter one of the yakuza was able to bring a regular bullet shooting pistol along? Kind of makes me wonder if it's possible to grab hold .... say a nuke and bring it to the room... and after a mission activate it and waste the ball. LOL. There should be a scene where a jack ass gantzer try to bring the damn ball (gantz) along for a mission.
Won't make sense, since Reika stated she wants to bring the dying kurono along in hopes of a rez.

1)Full effect meaning increased strength, by itself the suit protects the wearer from a lot of damage they would writhe in pain from otherwise. Without it fully activated no increased strength. As we saw on the 2nd mission Nishi took a full shot of an x gun without any effect to him physically other than the suit being weakened.
2) Alright I forgot that part(it's been a while since I read that part) but the difference with the gun and a full person is ultimately, you can fit the gun in your pocket, and unless the person is a zygote then I don't see that happening by just having your hand on the person. Of course I could be wrong and that is truely what they needed to do in order to get in and not hug them stupid, but I guess this is one of those things that is going to be debateable until an official handbook explains it or something. But then again this little tranfer move could just be Gantz being a dick as usual.
3) On the vampire, well personally I think they can be as strong as the aliens, if not stronger considering the feat of badassness the Host samurai pulled a few chapters ago.
4) Alright well then my theory is that she was pulled off easily because she was caught off guard, as she only seemed to pay attention to Kurouno lieing on the floor bleading to death. As for the not turning the suit on, I think that would be more or less her own damn fault than anything. OIr the always faithful "because Oka wanted him to die"

Am i the only one that noticed that in one of the chapters when katou was talking to the osaka girl he said like a million times that he was going to revive a male friend.now unless kishimoto had some unknown secret(i think you know what i mean >_>) i think it's going to be(for the sake of not rammaging through the thread again i'll call him by his second name-Kei) Kei who will be revived.
Oh and the fact that there are like a million 1 point aliens in the middle of that river alone could mean that each gantzer would get at least 200 points.

However we don't know what happens when someone hits the 200 mark(maybe you can only use 100 points once per completed mission)

but remember that everything we are talking about is probably a speculation(except katou reviving Kei).
Also i'm seeing this fight ending within the next 3 chapters(due to the fact that 2 bosses and the 100 pointer have been revealed).

Wait i take that back.thousand arms(woah i just had a flashback of a yugi-ho card that was named "something of the thousand arms".off topic tho) alone took 2 or 3 chapters...
And the fact that he was worth maybe 20 points means that the 68 points and the 71 points bosses each are going to take AT LEAST 3 chapters each.The 100 point dude will probably be getting 5 chapters or so to destroy the 2 groups(but then again. this is all speculation >_<)

I think i've typed enough.
If anyone has read through all of this i'm pretty sure it made almost no sense at all and I am very thankful for reading this.

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MGB counted 300 something aliens before Nuri went on a rampage and destroyed a few.

Originally Posted by etufo

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MGB counted 300 something aliens before Nuri went on a rampage and destroyed a few.

Who's nuri ?.?

The 100 point alien?

Nurarihyon, the 100 point alien. Nuri is my own little nickname.

Originally Posted by etufo

Nurarihyon, the 100 point alien. Nuri is my own little nickname.

Thanks.
BTW i came up with another explanation as to why Kei WILL return to the story.

There are times when he is telling the story(his introduction.2nd time was the shinjuku masacre.)
And before he got into gantz's room(or after.Can't quite remember) he said;
"At that time, I didn't know i would fight without my suit"(or something like that >_>)

Although I can't exactly tell when he recalled it.
It could've been when gantz opened up, or it might have been 10 years into the future.
Only time will tell.
This whole thing might even be a flashback during a mission he's about to get killed in.
Maybe it's the flashback before he snaps and starts running around screaming "I AM IMMORTAL.I CAN'T DIE" and such.
Maybe everytime he forgets his suit and is about to die he snaps like that but we dono't get to see the other flash backs cuz we're already in one?

It's all speculation like i said.
None of us has a shred of an idea as to what is going to happen in Gantz next.
Unless Oku is one of the members and he does exactly the opposite of what we wasnt him to do.
Then Kei would be screwed....

Still, maybe it won't be soon; I have a feeling that when they will revive him, they will mention Kei Kurono, but then the girl "Kei Kurono" is the one that will be revived, not the boy "Kurono".

Having the same name for no reason is pretty pointless, so I have a feeling this time around is when it'll be put to some use, even though it'll become a bit annoying (also that she-Kei was shown in he-Kei's head when he-Kei decided to revive Nishi, ignoring Lara Croft-look alike).

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If Katou does that, I hope he tells Kishimoto she was a mistake afterwards.

Originally Posted by etufo

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If Katou does that, I hope he tells Kishimoto she was a mistake afterwards.

Hehehe, thats true, but the fact that they both have the same name is not a mistyping. I'm still wondering if it just for show or not.