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    away is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    Default The reason Izumi cannot be revived.

    When people die during missions they are sent to Gantz's memory and can be revived with 100 points, but Izumi was never transported to the memory and therefore cant be revived.

    How do i know this?

    because it was on the news the next day that his body was amongst the dead people who were killed the night before. Its obvious that when people are sent to the memory, their body's are transported, like how what happened to tae, but izumi's body was not teleported to the memory (cause his body was found), so izumi cant be revived with 100 points because he isnt in the memory.

    tae like all other targets, are transported at the end of the mission, i know this because their alien corpses were not left on the street for people to find, or else everyone would know about aliens cause they found the bodys.

    My theory is that all of the targets corpses and fallen gantz members corpses are transported after the mission is over, humans go to the memory, wich would explain why tae went to the memory, and aliens go to an unkown location. Aliens and gantz members who die outside of missions are not transported, for example the Shorty Alien that killed all of kuronos classmates. that aliens body dint go anywhere when kurono killed it, it was taken by the police (remember kurono said that government agents went to his house and told him to keep his mouth shut about wat happened and the alien) unlike the aliens/targets who die during missions who's body's are never found because they are transported like tae.

    Some of you may say that the reason why they cant see the aliens is because they are on another frequency, but they dont stay that way after the mission, because if that was the case then the shorty alien that killed kurono's classmates would have still been invisible to humans after the mission, but that was not the case, humans(izumi who wasnt a gantz member at the time and police) could see the shorty alien. even if the frequency thing was true now that aliens are visible all the body's of past dead aliens would be visible and everyone would know of aliens, but that isnt the case. on the news the next day after the oni mission when they were talking about how people witnessed the alien fight, they had no alien body's now did they, no. The only explanation is that they were sent somewhere.

    Izumi did not die during a mission, and his body was not transfered to the memory (obviosly because the it was on the news the next day that he died, as in they found the body).

    Since Izumi is not in the memory, he cant be revived, Izumi is gone for good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by away View Post
    When people die during missions they are sent to Gantz's memory and can be revived with 100 points, but Izumi was never transported to the memory and therefore cant be revived.

    How do i know this?

    because it was on the news the next day that his body was amongst the dead people who were killed the night before. Its obvious that when people are sent to the memory, their body's are transported, like how what happened to tae, but izumi's body was not teleported to the memory (cause his body was found), so izumi cant be revived with 100 points because he isnt in the memory.
    Nobody has checked the memory bank to see if Izumi is in it.

    Just because you die outside of a mission, doesn't mean you're not in the memory bank. One of the zokus that died after trying to use the X-Gun outside of a mission was displayed in the memory bank. If you want proof, I'll be happy to send you a picture through private message. It's still debatable whether or not Kurono is in the memory bank because he chose the freedom option.

    Quote Originally Posted by away View Post
    Aliens and gantz members who die outside of missions are not transported, for example the Shorty Alien that killed all of kuronos classmates.
    That's just a rule you made for yourself. Not enough proof to support this claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by away View Post

    My theory is that all of the targets corpses and fallen gantz members corpses are transported after the mission is over, humans go to the memory, wich would explain why tae went to the memory, and aliens go to an unkown location. that aliens body dint go anywhere when kurono killed it, it was taken by the police (remember kurono said that government agents went to his house and told him to keep his mouth shut about wat happened and the alien) unlike the aliens/targets who die during missions who's body's are never found because they are transported like tae.
    The only reason why people didn't find the previous alien bodies was because they were in a different frequency, thus no living human could see gantzers or alien, but the rules have changed. Sure, humans can touch the dead alien bodies, but they'll just think it's their imagination and walk away.

    Izumi and Kurono could easily be brought back if Oku desires. In order for that to happen, your theory has to go down the gutter or he has to make a silly plot hole.
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    And the point is, he won't be revived with those memories, the idea is that (if he comes back), it'll be a reboot from the last time he was transported (or whenever Gantz chose to update his recording).

    If you'll recall, Kato was revived with memories ending during his fight with the 1000-arms (near the start of it actually). And if you want to argue that it's because his body was recovered, that wouldn't make any sense, he's missing memories of most of the fight.

    We can't say that Gantz only updates the data on the players while they're transported (in fact there's evidence that this isn't the case), we also can't say that Gantz deletes the data of "departed" players, there's no reason at all to expect him to keep track of them and make sure that their memories are up to date (no one is suggesting that Kurono is coming back with his memory of his fight with the vampires), but there's no reason to not to expect him to come back from when he just left Gantz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etufo View Post
    Nobody has checked the memory bank to see if Izumi is in it.

    Just because you die outside of a mission, doesn't mean you're not in the memory bank. One of the zokus that died after trying to use the X-Gun outside of a mission was displayed in the memory bank. If you want proof, I'll be happy to send you a picture through private message. It's still debatable whether or not Kurono is in the memory bank because he chose the freedom option.



    That's just a rule you made for yourself. Not enough proof to support this claim.



    The only reason why people didn't find the previous alien bodies was because they were in a different frequency, thus no living human could see gantzers or alien, but the rules have changed. Sure, humans can touch the dead alien bodies, but they'll just think it's their imagination and walk away.

    Izumi and Kurono could easily be brought back if Oku desires. In order for that to happen, your theory has to go down the gutter or he has to make a silly plot hole.

    the people in the memory bank are all people who died in missions. if gantz did store the people who were alive then whenever they check the memory then they would see reika and kaze and other living people but that isnt the case.

    the alien body's are not hidden because of frequency after the missions are over, if that was the case then the shorty alien that killed kurono's classmates would have been invisible to all humans, but humans could still see it so we know that isnt true.

    also after the oni mission the frequency doesnt work anymore, so all hose alien bodies would be plainly visible to the people after missions, but that isnt the case, they have to have mbeen sent somewhere. after the oni mission and the news was talking about what happened they had no bodies of aliens now did they? no.

    and read my first post, as i explain why aliens and people who die outside missions are not transported.

    the guy that nishi killed in the room must have been transported by gantz to the memory or else his body would still be in the room, that dint happen after a mission.
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    ^The shorty alien, we dont' know if it was invisible during the mission or not because most of the mission took place, on rooftops where there was no one in sight, however even the streets were empty so we still have no idea if they were on a different frequency. The frequency doesn't appear to stay constant even in the beginning because as you said, everyone was able to see him when he attacked the school, however during the buddha arc the owner of the temple couldn't see any of the aliens and definately not the giant ass fuck buddha that was about to stomp him. In the oni arc the aliens were always able to be seen by other people, you can tell by their reactions, however if the gantz members were from the start I dont' remember but they did become visible after Gantz decided it.

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    Wow, the first paragraph in your post completely destroyed your theory, which makes my job even easier. It’s somewhat sad that I’m first person to bring your main mistake to light. Well, it doesn’t really matter who corrects you as long as you’re corrected. Before I begin my assault, I’d like to say it’s nothing personal. Your theory just doesn’t hold up. Also, make sure to better research the source material for your theory before you pass it off as fact. If you had done that, you probably wouldn’t have made this thread.

    What’s the first thing that happens to a body once a mission is over? The answer is quite simple really; the corpses head is blown away via the bomb implanted inside of each participants head. Why would Gantz blow away the participants head if he were just going to send them to the database afterwards? It wouldn’t make sense for him to do something like that. As for targets, besides Tae, none of the targets to our knowledge have ever been sent unless someone had used the capture gun on them.

    So, now that I've said that. When do you think he saves the data of a participant? If you can’t figure it out on your own, I guess you’ll never find out… Ah, what the hell, I’ll go ahead and tell you. The data of a person is saved in a mission up until the point the first injury is inflicted. Therefore, the person that comes back from the mission is actually a copy of the person who was playing. That’s also the reason the participants sometimes don’t remember everything. If you don’t believe me, you should take a look at the point scoring for the second mission.

    The main point I want you to understand is that unless you see it happen on the pages, it’s not canon. Therefore, I ask you sincerely to never make another theory thread unless you have evidence to back up your claims.
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    for the record i think the theory is bogus too.

    But for the record MGB (what does that stand for anyway? Mister Gay Boy?), befor you get oh so cocky you should take a look at the end of the buddha mission where kurono was very injured but remembered what happened to his team mates.

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    Izumi WILL be back. He'll be needed and I don't think Oku would disappoint the fans. I think he likes Izumi anyway.

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    Actually oku said that he doesn't like izumi in a interview...
    And his favourite si katou and blah blah blah...
    Since I keep on thinking, I will have an eternity to live.
    In other words, if I stop thinking, I can die at any time.
    But, if I begin to think, I'll live again at any time.
    Therefore, because I am whimsical I am inconstant.
    Living as I wish; dying as I wish; reviving as I wish
    - Frederica Bernkastel - Umineko no naku koro ni -

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    I didn't know that. Still, I expect Izumi to come back...

 

 
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