Thread: Confusing Story twists

There are confusing points here in Gantz which leaves me really clueless...

• Can't kill someone if they're all inside Gantz' room
Remember the early part of the story? Where a random guy pulled the trigger of a gun at Joichiro Nishi (the middleschooler)? Nishi did'nt explode to bits due to his black suit then he killed the random guy who pulled the trigger (he does'nt wear the suit).

Another part of that is where the 2 vampires invaded Gantz' room... they we're fighting inside the room. Sakata and Sakurai (2 psychics) lifted the female vamp and crushed her cerebral arteries (or something) but nothing happened, also, the male vamp slashed Sakurai that's why the female vamp fell down but Sakurai was left unharmed.

It is mentioned that, as long as you're inside the room, nothing can be done.

In that part, the female vamp is'nt wearing a suit (just like what happened in Nishi's timeline at that time) but her brain did'nt got damaged. Pretty quite confusing eh?


• Hypnotism???
The very very first part of the story where Kato and Kurono died... They were asked if they still remember talking to someone before they died... Kurono remembered talking to an old lady at the substation... This plot is still left open.

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So yeah... There goes my questions. I may have missed-out something in the story so you guys might know what or why is that.

Your misinterpreting what you are reading.

It is possible for anybody to die in the Gantz room. Your comment about Nishi contradicts itself too. The reason Nishi did not die is because of the suit. without it he would have been dead.

Sakata and Sakurai did not have enough time to crush any internal organs. they lifted her, and HS interrupted their attack.

Where is it mentioned that nothing can be done? Again I think your misinterpreting the statement about not being able to touch door handles. And the fact that it is impossible to harm Gantz.

Why would the female vampire, dubbed Chigusa, have any brain damage? As I explained, their was no harm inflicted when the psychics attacked.

Its a given that somebody would speak to you before you died. The old lady means nothing, unlike in the Anime. Personally I think it is a forgotten plot device.

No offence, but you need to read more carefully.

And I believe that the transportation that Gantz uses heals wounds automatically. Thats probably why Sakura doesn't seem to be showing any signs of he slash by HS.

I think i read somewhere that the teleportation doesnt heal the wounds. Gantz just copy-pastes them into the room in their healthy condition..

Concerning any memory loss, i would assume that if Gantz has the power to materialize a person slowly with a beam, he would have the power to implant the memory which a person may have lost from a "copy-paste"

^ There's conflicting evidence about what Gantz does, he's been seen to c/p someone in a certain physical state down to their position at the time, but he has also been shown to heal wounds inflicted outside of missions (obviously since he gets dead people to fight for him), he's also been shown to match the physical state with the metal state chronologically, or to do it out of sync. I would guess that it's just because Oku makes lots of mistakes, he's been know to mess up points, and in a more recent incident he's misplaced Kaze and Takeshi.

^Or he wants to give a major surprise that Kaze and Takeshi somehow died. I know it's stupid, but still a possibility.

Originally Posted by Tousen

And I believe that the transportation that Gantz uses heals wounds automatically. Thats probably why Sakura doesn't seem to be showing any signs of he slash by HS.

He wasn't injured at all. He was just taken off balance and distracted.

Originally Posted by Tetnubis

He wasn't injured at all. He was just taken off balance and distracted.

Oh, ok. I thought he actually got cut. My bad.

Originally Posted by Tetnubis

Where is it mentioned that nothing can be done?

Chapter 238 page 25 [Scanlated by IlluminatiManga]

Code:

Masaru Kato:
That's Right!!

Anything you try here is completely useless!!

That means, HS' slashes through Sakurai is really critical and thus their psy powers got interrupted... but due to that stated above... they did'nt get sliced...

That's why I'm asking if someone can kill or not inside the room.

Originally Posted by Tetnubis

No offence, but you need to read more carefully.

That's alright, no offense there... Just wanted to clear things up

Ah, I see what you mean about Katou's quote. Though it is evident that it is possible to die and get injured in the Gantz room. Hence why Nishi killed the guy without the suit that time.
I believe that Katou was speaking about all the other things we have seen it impossible to do in the room. And about the comment afterwards.

Originally Posted by Katou

Even if you kill everyone in here, as long as the black ball remains, all the humans will stay alive.

If they managed to break the suits inside the Gantz room, I am sure that anybody would die, as normal.

Not to forget the fact that Nishi's suit was possibly weakened, hence why the suit broke so easily in the Tanaka Ailen mission. So there is reason to believe that untill you finish a mission, the second you enter the room, there is no more healing.