The Osaka arc point analysis and speculation thread

[Nomeru]

Wow, nice adding up there dude, good work. I wont dispute the points for this mission, but there are some things I'll say.

First of all for previous missions, the aliens varied in strength, so it would make sence if other missions were based on different point values.

Now, in a perfect world or manga, what you said for total points would be correct. However, there are some problems that I cans see that would throw off the total points and individual. First of all, people who have already killed some aliens may die, and thus lower the total points attained this mission. Second: it may not show us every alien that is killed by everyone. I wouldnt be suprised that in that picture, some aliens were out of view, or if when they were fighting, with so many people, it skipped showing some weak aliens die.

The final thing that will probably throw this off (I havnt checked the past for reference but heh), is that it may simply not go by the numbers you counted. This would be very common. It may simply forget about the number actually drawn in that picture, have them start killing, and give points later with a semi-random killed number, if that makes sence. I'm not sure how they've done everything in the past, or how accurate they've been to the number drawn, so I dont know how it will turn out.

Anyways, nice work on this, that must have taken you some time heh.

[Red15824]

I don't think the scoring system is different. Remember the conversation between Sakata and Sakurai about how they noticed the people were reacting like this was a video game? I think this implies that they were used to this whole type of mission. And when that Osaka Gantzer's arms got torn off? He reacted not only without screaming, but with almost no surprise at all. I think that pretty much all of the Osaka's are extreme Veterans. The three Osaka's got destroyed by those bosses. And no wonder, coming at them with only swords, where the bosses specialized and therefore clearly had the advantage.

And it's no wonder the Japan Gantzers started with low-level missions for their first at the series' beginning. Remember when Nishi said that no one survived in a long time? I think that the more people survive (how many survive and the stronger each individual is), the greater the mission difficulty and the more aliens.

And what will Host Samurai do once he acquires 100 points?

[Hadou]

Thing is they wern't bosses, maybe mid bosses, but not bosses. Those three were just idiots.

[Daniel. G]

This is an interesting speculation you made and well elaborated taking in to consideration all the things that have happened thus far. So you get some props for doing all this work.

The beautiful thing about this manga is that so far no one was right in their speculation, and trying to predict it never works. I was reading mosts of the post on the forum here and i find that speculation and what ifs and all that in here, especialy about gantz do not work.
This was proven time after time after time. I am not going to go on a rant about all other topics but regarding the points system i think you guys might be missing something.

I am not saying i am right and you are wrong and i am not going to say that speculate either.
What made me think when i look back on the manga and how all the missions developed that there are a million factors that could influence the scoring system. Alot of you think it could be randomized and that gantz is doing this on whim. Could it be that because of his personality and jokes he makes (even that might be wrong) you automatically assume he plays jokes with the points but in fact there are strict rules or vice versa? Also on two occasions if you all remember kurono got very high points for not wearing a sute could that be work something, could wearing it partially also have an effect, like that sex addict? I guess what i am trying to say is could the level of involvement in the mission have an effect on the points, notice how nishi in the onion arc only got 3 points for actually killing the thing? Could the use of different weapons mean something, think about it, using your fists to kill or a gun. Being invisible the whole time and just doing nothing until the end like nishi.

Something has been bothering me tho, when you look at how nishi found that by sticking your finger in his ear and twisting it around you can see the people who have passed by the room then is there no other place you can poke him smack him or something to get how the point system works. Notice how kurono asked to see the rewards of achieving 100 points, could it be that there is a command to see how the scoring works and all that?

All the things i mentioned i like to keep in mind and not get worked over it or try to find out how the manga will unfold, i don't like spoiling myself nor think to much on things i have no control over.

Just a few thoughts, i though of sharing with you guys, feel free to take them for what you think they are worth.

[Sidharthavicious]

I never thought about there being other places to poke the man inside Gantz for info. It would be amusing if there were different orifices to stick your finger in for different bits of information.
Maybe if they find Gantz' sweet spot they can get a free H-Gun.

[Hadou]

^ HAHAHAHAHA now I know what the H stands for.

But yeah Daniel you bring up some valid points, but I have to disagree with you on the suitless= more points, mainly because the first time Kurouno killed the five in the house then the boss which resulted in him getting all those points. They were 5 a piece if im not mistaken. The dino arc he killed all those dinos by himself in one go, and if memory serves he killed that last dino that Izumi had trouble with. Though I could be wrong on that, fact is in both missions he killed a whole lot more than the rest of the team, which resulted in him getting more points, he even killed a few T-Rex dinos as well. Point is in both situations he had no suit his performance increased wether due to luck or pure skill, simply because he had no suit so his chances of living decreased but his performance increased because of that fear pf dieing and I bet he figured the best way to live was to end it as soon as possible in the dino mission(plus the less than 15 points and you die handicap could get anyone motivated enough to want to kill as much as possible suitless), the first time he had no choice in his situation so his luck helped there.

Now on the factors, yes there could very will be a million fators on how he scores but I pointed out that maybe the biggest two would be the difficulty/strength of the alien and the amount of the alien. Amount for me referring to if the alien is a minion, mid boss, or boss alien(think in terms of an rpg for what types would be considered as such) And as far as I know I think the only difference in points gained are with the y gun and x/h weapons but I could be wrong.
Course this discussion was based off of some interview with oku saying that he used the same point system for each hunt so yeah, right now all we can do is wait.

[Joeyt741]

I think this implies that they were used to this whole type of mission. And when that Osaka Gantzer's arms got torn off? He reacted not only without screaming, but with almost no surprise at all.

No i just think he was really really blazed when that happened...