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Thread: The Osaka arc point analysis and speculation thread

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    maddox20 is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    No it seems you are the one who keeps getting confused.

    Yes, I already know that Gantz also did not deduct points for not killing any aliens, just as you said. And I already said that Gantz also deducted all of Kurono's points when he did not kill all aliens. And Gantz also told Kurono he will die if he did not achieve 15 points for the dino mission. Thus, i was trying to make the point that Gantz can change the rules for points if he wants to.

    I know what I'm talking about but you make it seem like I don't.

    EDIT: MGB - I did provide facts to back up my argument. You should read my previous posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddox20 View Post
    uhh. remember in the early parts of the story, Gantz took away all of Kurono's points because he didnt' kill any aliens?

    That's a pretty solid evidence for you. Now, my question is, did you even read the manga yourself?
    I just basically bold the words that made Tet call you an idiot. If you still don't understand why, then let's drop this nonsense.
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    Sorry but i have to say that i will drop this manga now.

    The author somehow lost his passion and focus on Gantz .

    The chapter 255 is the peak of it now.

    Steadily new characters are introduced, but no plot nor character-developement at all!

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    Well I think we have seen more character development, I mean Kato has been better in the game, Sakata is emo and HS has decided to team up with the Gantzers. Oku manage to deliver something else more information on the Osakan Gantz team and how similar or different they are compared to Tokyo and a few new gadgets have been added such as the neat computer that scans aliens for points. However I wish the chapters came out more frequently but at least every chapter shows something significant.

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    A plot will most likely be introduced after the Osaka arc. The only thing I expect from these missions are tons of action and good suspense. So far I'm getting both, but the question is can Oku maintain this consistency?
    etufo: HS is most likely going to die sooner or later. Who will kill the cool character killer?

    Popo: well, obviously going by that logic, HS will have to kill himself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGB View Post
    2. The Greenonion alien was a boss; of course Nishi got more than 1 point.
    I know this is going back a bit but i just wanted to mention another possibility as to why nishi got 3 points for the onion boss. He diddnt kill the alien, he sent it. We dont really know if sending gives more points or not because the only alien we've seen points given for it being sent was the onion boss. Maybe it was just worth 1 point but nishi got more points for sending it? idk just throwing that out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyt741 View Post
    I know this is going back a bit but i just wanted to mention another possibility as to why nishi got 3 points for the onion boss. He diddnt kill the alien, he sent it. We dont really know if sending gives more points or not because the only alien we've seen points given for it being sent was the onion boss. Maybe it was just worth 1 point but nishi got more points for sending it? idk just throwing that out there.
    If that's true, Katou is going to be scoring a lot from now on. Sooner he gets 100 points, sooner this Kurono business will be resolved.
    etufo: HS is most likely going to die sooner or later. Who will kill the cool character killer?

    Popo: well, obviously going by that logic, HS will have to kill himself...

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    I was thinking about the Oni mission, first that the same point system would work for that mission as well as this mission, but that does not explain Reika and Old man getting a 100 points. Obviously 1 point for every crap alien wouldn't equal them to a 100 pts, so maybe just the weakest of aliens are 1 pt, and then some are at 2-5 points, while the stronger are 10, and the big bosses 25-100 pts. I was thinking that Kurono, Izumi, Kaze and Sakata could've gotten 100 pts for each of the bosses they killed, but that wouldn't explain Reika and Old man. I'm wondering why MGB's Kaze score isn't higher because he killed many lesser aliens on his way to save Takeshi. Also, it is not confirmed that HS killed the two swordsman aliens (he cut off many limbs, but no vital hits.). Well, that's just my thoughts on this whole business. I wonder if Oku will ever give us his true point scoring theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popothepenguin View Post
    I was thinking about the Oni mission, first that the same point system would work for that mission as well as this mission, but that does not explain Reika and Old man getting a 100 points. Obviously 1 point for every crap alien wouldn't equal them to a 100 pts, so maybe just the weakest of aliens are 1 pt, and then some are at 2-5 points, while the stronger are 10, and the big bosses 25-100 pts. I was thinking that Kurono, Izumi, Kaze and Sakata could've gotten 100 pts for each of the bosses they killed, but that wouldn't explain Reika and Old man. I'm wondering why MGB's Kaze score isn't higher because he killed many lesser aliens on his way to save Takeshi. Also, it is not confirmed that HS killed the two swordsman aliens (he cut off many limbs, but no vital hits.). Well, that's just my thoughts on this whole business. I wonder if Oku will ever give us his true point scoring theory.
    I only counted aliens that were killed on screen; the aliens Kaze supposedly killed on the way over to save Takeshi were never shown being killed. Therefore, I didn't include them in the count. As to your theory about normal aliens having values from 1-5, I agree with that. However, I was only using facts in my analysis. Therefore, I could not include that because there isn't any evidence to support it. If there were any, I would know. Before I posted this analysis I made sure to do my homework... What I mean is I reread the entire series before asking Tet if I could post this thread. In my studies of the series, I found that there was absolutely no proof to even support a scoring system until chapter 255… That’s when everything for me really clicked… I went back to the Dino and Oni mission to look at the points they got compared to the aliens they killed. For the Dino mission, my analysis of how the points should be scored was almost a perfect match to what they were scored… However, the Oni mission really stomped me, all of my calculations were correct except for the ones I had made for Reika and Suzuki… The only thing I can think of that would put their point totals above 100 is Oku using them as plot devices… I mean look at how everything turned out. Everything that is happening right now can be traced back to Reika and Suzuki getting 100 points… It’s somewhat sad that none of us realized what the true plot device was…
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    hmm some of your scoring doesnt seme to make sense, becasue if your way of scoring was true then seven people could get out of Gantz if they wanted to.

    Another point is that there are four "super rare aliens" aka the boss aliens. If those four are worth one hundred poitns each then this game would be too easy, especially for those with the huge gun

    and as far as i have seen, Gantz is very keen on holding onto powerful people like Izumi. He wouldn't let people have that many point sin one game alone. Probasbly everything is fractions of points

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