Thread: Kurono's Team recently...

I wonder why the team has become so callous and, up to a point, cold-hearted lately. They had the strength and abilities to help out a few people at least, but refused.

Reika said it wasn't their problem, and that they shouldn't be doing it. Sakata went on a callous speech about revived lives being 'cheap' (belittling Kato and Sakurai in the process). Even old Suzuki, who once insisted to fight where the least people would be hurt, has - albeit with some reluctance - agreed not to help. Inaba's position as a coward has always been clear.

Whats happened to these guys? This isn't the group Kurono led, and they certainly aren't following the philosophy Kurono was following by the time they named him leader. Has his death affected them that much?

So far, the only ones left with compassion seem to be Kato, Kaze, little Takeshi and - perhaps - Sakurai.

So why do you think they shifted so badly?

Kei's death affected almost everyone in team in a very negative way. Reika couldn't save Kei and I think she doesn't want anyone else on the team to die because they're risking their lives for complete strangers. On another note, this is the first time the current Tokyo team has to do a mission without their fearless leader, so the pressure is mostly on Reika to do a good job leading the team, even though she clearly isn't adequate at the moment.

Yeah, it surprises me that Sakata just went pessimistic all of a sudden. He was probably annoyed at Katou's heroic morales so he decided to question Katou's objective in the game.

Old man Suzuki is probably feeling the same way as Reika, also thanks to Sakata's 'cheap lives' speech.

I never thought Kaze had much compassion for others. The only exception is Takeshi of course.

Yeah, Kaze isn't a very compassionate fellow. He's a fighter.
I mean, he's not a bad man, like Inaba definitely is, but he's just detached at times...I was under the impression that he does at least have compassion for the weak, hence the Takeshi thing.


Inaba's always pissed me off. If I were Kei I would've killed him right after the Kill Tae mission. That stupid weakling was the only regular member who sided with Izumi. He barely contributes to the fights and is basically a sniveling perv. He got some punches in because Kurono was weakened, but if I were Kurono I would've killed that coward right after the Tae mission.
It annoys me that Tae's death and the Tae mission didn't really send Kei into a holy super rage. He just got morose and crap.

I agree with you. I don't like the way Kei just let everybody off the hook. I don't like the way Katou let HS and Chigusa off the hook either cause now instead of getting a weapon or freedom he has to work on bringing back Kei first. Everyone in the room could've killed them since they're the enemy and can't be trusted. But it's just how the story goes...

^Yeah but Katou convinced HS and her that killing them would be useless, since as long as the Gantz ball was still there. He probably saw more use to them as allies, rather than dead. I don't think anybody had the balls to kill them, except Kaze or Nishi (But why would Nishi give a shit?).

Originally Posted by Caican

I wonder why the team has become so callous and, up to a point, cold-hearted lately. They had the strength and abilities to help out a few people at least, but refused.....So why do you think they shifted so badly?

Sakata's speech pretty much did them in. The significant part, other than the "cheap" part, was the whole neverending cycle of Gantz - new players, killing aliens, ppl dying, survive, repeat. They are stuck in that world but more importantly... others will always come and go.

Originally Posted by MadameSole

Inaba's always pissed me off. If I were Kei I would've killed him right after the Kill Tae mission. That stupid weakling was the only regular member who sided with Izumi. He barely contributes to the fights and is basically a sniveling perv. He got some punches in because Kurono was weakened, but if I were Kurono I would've killed that coward right after the Tae mission.
It annoys me that Tae's death and the Tae mission didn't really send Kei into a holy super rage. He just got morose and crap.

SIGH... again... Kurono would NEVER KILL another human being!!!! And you think Inaba's a "sniveling perv"??? What the heck does that make Kurono then??

Originally Posted by BDRZS07

I agree with you. I don't like the way Kei just let everybody off the hook. I don't like the way Katou let HS and Chigusa off the hook either cause now instead of getting a weapon or freedom he has to work on bringing back Kei first.

... if Katou and the rest would've kept on fighting the Vamps in the "room", then they would def have died. Close quarters, innocent newbies, guns ineffective cuz of speed, etc... Katou did the smart thing by NOT fighting. If you meant during the mission... well their a bit busy with the other aliens... plus we wouldn't get the chance to see a "Samurai Showdown" next issue ... and Kurono was already dead.

Oku wants us to see that Tokyo team SUCKs without Kurono and the only menber that can still pull out of the shit is Katou, and Nishi cause he gives a crap about everything

Originally Posted by BrkngTheHbt

SIGH... again... Kurono would NEVER KILL another human being!!!! And you think Inaba's a "sniveling perv"??? What the heck does that make Kurono then??

Since when is Kei=Katou? Kei's never been some pacifist angel. It's true that he strives to be like Katou and try to save the innocent and try not to kill others, but when it's to protect those he loves he does it. He freaking killed that thug guy RIGHT during that bloody mission with the blow to the head for godsakes...
He's MORE than willing to deal deadly blows and attack fatally when it comes to Tae! Didn't you see him targeting all the guys with his gun INCLUDING INABA and blowing off the one dude's legs?
Are you reading the same series?

And yes, Inaba is a sniveling perv. Kurono may have perverse feelings, but everyone does at times...It's just that Inaba acts in such a stealthy and sniveling way when it comes to his lust (He'd have gangraped Reika with those thugs if he wasn't scared of the "legality" of it.), and at least Kurono isn't a total coward like Inaba.

Originally Posted by MadameSole

Since when is Kei=Katou? Kei's never been some pacifist angel. It's true that he strives to be like Katou and try to save the innocent and try not to kill others, but when it's to protect those he loves he does it. He freaking killed that thug guy RIGHT during that bloody mission with the blow to the head for godsakes...
He's MORE than willing to deal deadly blows and attack fatally when it comes to Tae! Didn't you see him targeting all the guys with his gun INCLUDING INABA and blowing off the one dude's legs?
Are you reading the same series?

Yeah... we def aren't reading the same manga
I'm NOT a Kurono fan at all(Katou all the way)... so I can't believe that I'm actually defending him. But lemme rephrase what I said before... Kurono would NEVER KILL another human being INTENTIONALLY.

Deathpunch to the head? 100% UNintentional.
Guy who got his legs blasted? Well... it was kinda kill or be killed by that point for poor Kei
Shooting ppl that have the suit on? Unless the suit's broke... shouldn't hurt them

You make it sound like Kurono wouldn't mind killing "bad" ppl(like Izumi) to save innocent ppl or loved ones. Kinda ironic considering that Kurono would then become like Izumi(the two-dimensional psycho ). Oh yeah... Kurono DIND'T kill Izumi in order to prevent the shooting massacre!!! That alone should mean something... It sounds like the Kurono you speak of is the one of the Buddha Mission.

Originally Posted by MadameSole

And yes, Inaba is a sniveling perv. Kurono may have perverse feelings, but everyone does at times...It's just that Inaba acts in such a stealthy and sniveling way when it comes to his lust (He'd have gangraped Reika with those thugs if he wasn't scared of the "legality" of it.), and at least Kurono isn't a total coward like Inaba.

Ssooo... what's the difference between Kurono having "perverse feelings" and Inaba "sniveling about his lust" or his "fantasy of gangraping Reika"??? lol So I guess it's worse to "think" perversely like Inaba than to actually "do" them like Kurono - sexually harassing Kishimoto, sleeping/using Sei out of jealousy, etc. Btw... Inaba stalled the "thugs" when they wanted to take a "peek" at Reika changing. That alone should also mean something.

Originally Posted by BrkngTheHbt

it was kinda kill or be killed by that point for poor Kei

Precisely. That IS intentional killing right there, killing with the intent to save oneself or the one you love.
And shooting people with the gun is an act of direct fatal attacking...I mean, it breaks the suit and then if fired again kills the person...The suit would be broken because they were fired on...

Kinda ironic considering that Kurono would then become like Izumi(the two-dimensional psycho ).

Nope...Izumi doesn't fight to protect those he loves (don't count the lame last minute girlfriend thing)...What manga are you reading? No...that's not the same, or ironic...
Generally Izumi is a 2D psycho who'll kill anyone and anything.
Kurono is however willing to fight and kill to protect himself and the ones he loves.
Similarities? Irony?
Right...

Ssooo... what's the difference between Kurono having "perverse feelings" and Inaba "sniveling about his lust" or his "fantasy of gangraping Reika"??? lol So I guess it's worse to "think" perversely like Inaba than to actually "do" them like Kurono - sexually harassing Kishimoto, sleeping/using Sei out of jealousy, etc. Btw... Inaba stalled the "thugs" when they wanted to take a "peek" at Reika changing. That alone should also mean something.

Um...no, you 'tard..."lol" away at yourself.

Kurono's perverse feelings are just lust, fine...the difference is that Kurono's lust about Reika is fine in that Reika wants him back and that Kurono generally keeps it down because of his love for Tae.
Inaba is just a freak who would jump Reika in an instant...Kurono has plenty of opportunities to further his relationship with Reika, and he surely must have lust...but he does not.
Inaba IS sniveling and carrying on his lust, with perverse fantasies and such. He wasn't intentionally stalling the thugs...he really wanted to gangbang, but he's such a reprehensible coward that the only thing that stops him is the "legality" of it.

1.) Did he ever really sexually harass Kishimoto? I mean...he ogled her...and hoped something would happen when they were in the same apartment...but that's all.
Anyway you harken back and use Old Kurono.
Yeah, old Kurono is different than the Kurono of the time period I'm mentioning. He grows as a person...he may once have been cowardly, a bit perverted, and a disrespectful of humanity...but he grows as a human being.
Inaba never does. He stays the same sniveling perverse coward.
2.) Sleeping...using Sei? Sei was totally willing partner who is interested and eventually likes Kurono during their short time together. Reika has absolutely no interest in Inaba whatsoever. There was no use or jealousy...Do you know what the word "jealousy" means? No.
Don't even try to use Sei as a point...you'll embarass yourself.

I don't understand you defending Inaba...he's basically a perverse coward...Kurono may have lustful feelings, but generally they're directed towards girls that like him back...and generally they don't involve gangrape and they're not produced by a worthless human being like Inaba who won't take any measures to protect another human being like Tae or fight for his life.