Thread: Osaka arc - Nishi

Well, we haven't everyone in the team for quite some while now.
First we were shown Kaze and Takeshi and now Katou.

It's not like Oku is only keeping just Nishi out of the picture.
So far, it's almost the entire team.

And about Nishi appearing near the end and killing a boss.
Just look at the boss in almost every mission. They are quite though.
And these guys seem to be on an higher level than the ones we saw till now.

I highly doubt that Nishi is even close to kill one of those.
His fighting style would never work on a boss. To hide and kill a boss if there is an opening is not impressive. That's why Oku wouldn't draw it.
And as far as we know that is the only thing Nishi can do.

Nishi has definitely slain bosses before. Given that gantz wipes your points if you do not complete a mission there is no way that Nishi would have racked up as many points as he did with out slaying a number of bosses.

A lot of people speculate that nishi must have fought many easy aliens, but actually if you look at the early alien hunts they are actually very hard fights and were only completed succesfully thanks to kurono. I think anyone other than Kurono, who was very lucky, would have died if they walked into that house in the tanaka alien mission for example.

Uh. No not exactly, the fights may have been relatively hard but most of the team was carried by one or two people - and I doubt in his time, Nishi was one of those people. To me its more likely someone else on the team may have killed the bosses back then. Given his knowledge he has apparently been a Gantzer for some time which would lead me to assume that although he survived many missions he didn't exactly do much in them (high score + long time Gantzer = low points per mission). Coupled with how he died (rather pathetically), I'd say its more credible than suggesting he's some Super-Kurono felling bosses like flies.

No one is saying that he is some uber hunter. You are simply ignoring the fact that he must have slain at least once boss to manage to have that many points when kurono and kato arrived. The point is that He isn't a head on super man type and his tactic might not be very noble but it is a tactic that most hunters would employ.

Have you ever seen the movie predator by the way? That is a pretty good insight into what Nishi is thinking and planning. In an environment where you do not believe you can rely on anyone for support, are outnumbered by hostile targets, and you are required to kill them all these targets stealth is the most realistic solution.

Thats no fact. No where is there even an inkling of proof to show you need to have slain a boss to have lots of points. Case in point (no pun intended) Old Man, Reika, and whoever else that was at the end of phase 1, had never killed a boss yet they had 100 points.

He has probably killed some bosses, but we don't even know if any of them were strong.


But think about this.
The mission is over and Gantz is giving out the points.
We didn't see anything from Nishi and then he ends up having a lot of points?
What purpose would that serve? We already had a scene like that after the first mission, so the effect of Oku doing that again would be minimal.

Here's another one.
Would you rather see Kaze,Katou or someone else battle the boss for several chapters and kill it or would you like to see Nishi appearing behind the alien and finish it off in one chapter?

I'd take option one any day.
To see Nishi or any other character for that matter, finish off a boss without effort is just boring if you ask me.

How many points did Nishi have before he died?

Quite a lot.
But I don't remember the exact number. Maybe 80?

Nishi had 90 points before he died.

Originally Posted by StealDragon

Thats no fact. No where is there even an inkling of proof to show you need to have slain a boss to have lots of points. Case in point (no pun intended) Old Man, Reika, and whoever else that was at the end of phase 1, had never killed a boss yet they had 100 points.

That's true, but don't forget that they had powerhouses like Kurono, Izumi and Kaze to handle the bosses. Looking at Nishi and the fact that he got to 90 points in like a year or so, I think that he must've taken out some bosses in that span, considering his strategy of hiding while the uninformed new Gantzers get slaughtered and the aliens/boss have taken their eyes off him. Taking into account that it's likely that since Izumi left Gantz no other Gantzer other than Nishi has survived long enough to go free, and that the one time Kurono failed to kill all the aliens in the Chibi Alien mission, he was given an ultimatum of getting at least 15 points or death, and I have a couple of possibilities:

1.Nishi must've killed a good amount of aliens in each mission, if not all of them assuming that each mission after Izumi left only consisted of 3-4 aliens tops, and that the other Gantzers were utterly clueless and got killed quickly.

2.Nishi might've lost his points once or twice in that span between Izumi leaving and Kurono and Kato arriving in Gantz, which would explain why after a year he only had 90 points, once again assuming that he must've come upon some tough hunts with lots of aliens that he could not handle himself.

I had lots more to add, but maybe later.

... or like i said he could just have accumulated points very slowly. Kurono hit 100 in like... two or three months. Nishi took well over 4 times as long. And even if he lost points, to lose that many he had to be an exceptionally shitty Gantzer.