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    RedAdonis is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Well, Gantz only delete corpse or bodys that has no vital signs when the copy is created........... So i suppose Gantz works with the souls thing too...... or as close as it can anyway. But the interesting thing is that Gantz don't delete the copy if the original is still alive...... or maybe just being "dead" for a few seconds is enough for someone to be qualified as a Gantzer.


    To fight or not to fight....... someone will always die in the end.

    Sorry, excuse my lack of English: what is "Card Captor Sakura gangbang?" Well, yes I know what "Card Captor Sakura" is, but what is "gangbang?" A gun fight?
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    for all intensive purpose
    "Intents and purposes"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayato_kamina View Post
    Gantz seems a bit inconsistent... he leaves kishimoto's body behind (for unknown reasons) but then he has kuruno's and kei's body vanish (and dont say it's because he doesnt want to be discovered, he vanished the bodies at a train station in plain sight)
    Nishi claims it's carelessness, which is plausible. He may just do the body-disappearing after death, which he'd assumed would take place when he made the copy but which never actually took place.

    Also he took tae's body, and the point at which he took tae's body was when she already knew about gantz and the black suits etc, so how he revived her with a much older memory (the memory of having never gone out with kuruno) is also a mystery.
    The implication here, strongly backed up by the fragments of memory that Kurono and Izumi demonstrated, is that Gantz does not restore a prior copy of the person outside—he restores the most recent copy, but edits the memory directly (and apparently unreliably)l

    I imagine dying must be similiar to sleep, you go unconscious, but then reawaken, fully conscious, and it'll probably be instantaneous, so for all intensive purpose your consciousness must get carried on (or at least seem to)
    That's a better parallel than I think you realize. Sleep is a non-continuity-of-consciousness—there is no empirical means to determine that you existed before you woke up, in contrast to simply having false memories of a prior waking period. Of course this is true always, but most noticeable immediately post-waking.

    The saying that it probably isnt continuity of consciousness is a bit silly considering when we go to sleep, for all we know our previous consciousness ends and a new one begins... so maybe it's not as important as we seem to think.
    Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. The only person who might know is Kishimoto-1.

    Really, we need to define "life", "death", and "you" (the general "you", the nature of the individual) before we can really have this discussion. Unfortunately, none of those definitions are easy.

    ~J
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    Okay, time to say it: The obvious point of this is - Souls.

    If you die, then a copy of you is created, is it really you? If you actually have a soul in the Gantz universe, one would assume he either keeps it, or that your copy is the same thing as any clone. - A totally different person.

    In the case of Kato, we see that he doesn't remember being impaled and actually dieing - he started to see the Gantz room before the exact event of his death actually took place. One has to assume that he is just a copy of himself prior to his own death.

    Secondly, fun thing here - Kei proved that there can be multiple copies of one person alive at once, hense the Gantz spirituality/causuality situation.
    There's the possibility that souls could be cloned too along with the body.

    -Rah

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    Meh..... i wonder how many similair topic like this one has already being made. Oku sure did a good job to avoid the whole spirit/psych thing.


    To fight or not to fight....... someone will always die in the end.

    Sorry, excuse my lack of English: what is "Card Captor Sakura gangbang?" Well, yes I know what "Card Captor Sakura" is, but what is "gangbang?" A gun fight?
    -kj1980-

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    The only reason (apart from the relationship with Kato and Kurono which doesn't matter that much) Kishimoto should be revived is to explore that side of the manga.

    -Rah

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    RedAdonis is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaosu Rah View Post
    The only reason (apart from the relationship with Kato and Kurono which doesn't matter that much) Kishimoto should be revived is to explore that side of the manga.

    -Rah
    My point exactlly....... he might have killed her off just to avoid thing like this.


    To fight or not to fight....... someone will always die in the end.

    Sorry, excuse my lack of English: what is "Card Captor Sakura gangbang?" Well, yes I know what "Card Captor Sakura" is, but what is "gangbang?" A gun fight?
    -kj1980-

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    Sorry to ruin your thinking but it said copy your image. Not copy you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirtibs1 View Post
    Sorry to ruin your thinking but it said copy your image. Not copy you.
    If it will only make a copy of you body then it should not copy the psych........ so yeah...... can you make it more clear please?


    To fight or not to fight....... someone will always die in the end.

    Sorry, excuse my lack of English: what is "Card Captor Sakura gangbang?" Well, yes I know what "Card Captor Sakura" is, but what is "gangbang?" A gun fight?
    -kj1980-

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    I think you guys are thinking about this too hard. I dont think even Obu put that much thought into this.
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    He obviously put some thought into it, since he included Kishimotos 1 and 2. My guess, though, is that he decided "not a solvable problem" and moved on.

    If it will only make a copy of you body then it should not copy the psych
    Wrong. Where do you think your psyche comes from? From all available evidence, it comes from the physical state of that lump of meat we call the brain.

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