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    junwei is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    When the first mission happens, where kurono and kato get into gantz. Nishi says something about them being specially selected, and kurono has a flashback about the grandma at the train station. Is there any meaning to this?

    Sorry if this question has already been answered before ><. I didn't know wat to search for in the search function.

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    Yea it has no relevance [apparently].

    Nishi was simply lying. Tho' there is a possibility that they were specially selected. 'How? And on what basis?' Is the question.


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    there is a little selection and thats the time they die.
    if they die in a special timeframe the chance is big, that they get into the Gantz-room, but i think there is no other thing exept of the time....maybe the place, but I'm not so sure....also i think that they got to die on a unnatural way, for exampel suicide, carcrash, run over by a train,etc...

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    Kurono thinks the weird old woman may have been the person who was supposed to tell him about his selection.

    Whether or not Nishi was at all truthful is unknown, as is pretty much always the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetnubis View Post
    Yea it has no relevance [apparently].

    Nishi was simply lying. Tho' there is a possibility that they were specially selected. 'How? And on what basis?' Is the question.
    How can you be so sure, Tet? At this point of the manga (Ch237), We haven't had a chance to hear Nshi tell us anything useful after being revived because the person who was going to interrogate him, Kurono, was brainwashed and later killed.

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    I'm not, hence the word 'apparently'.

    Tho' through deduction, and using what has been shown in the manga thus far. Nishi's comment about somebody talking to you before you die, and being specially selected, does not apply to characters such as Kaze, or Cherry. I do realise however that Izumi was told to get people, so they were somewhat selected. But if you look at other characters deaths, like the biker, and especially Takeshi, you will see that nobody had spoken to them prior.

    I'm not denying that i could be wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by junwei View Post
    When the first mission happens, where kurono and kato get into gantz. Nishi says something about them being specially selected, and kurono has a flashback about the grandma at the train station. Is there any meaning to this?
    i would say that a lot of people believed the old lady was an important factor in gantz selection. At least a while back they did anyway. Even the Anime directors thought so. Didn't they play up the old lady's role a lot more than the original Manga did? for example in the Anime didn't she confront Krono again after his death in the train accident?

    Personally i think oku was still in the early development stages of his story. He was trying to set up a lot of situations that would provide flexibility of plot further down the track once he had fleshed out the path the story would take. The whole statement by Nishi is just an artifact of that process. I mean the fact that he moved from weekly to fortnightly releases and then to no releases for over 4 months should say to everyone that he really has not figured out how he is going to end it.

    This factor is rather troubling to me as it signifies the potential that he will drag out his story to epicly crudy and pointless proportions a kin to something like the x-files (promising but ultimately just got dragged out forever until it had no meaning anymore)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterbot View Post
    there is a little selection and thats the time they die.
    if they die in a special timeframe the chance is big, that they get into the Gantz-room, but i think there is no other thing exept of the time....maybe the place, but I'm not so sure....also i think that they got to die on a unnatural way, for exampel suicide, carcrash, run over by a train,etc...

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    Remember the politician of the first mission, he said he died of cancer in his heart or something like that, so that's a natural death

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    Quote Originally Posted by KristenBaldousor View Post
    Remember the politician of the first mission, he said he died of cancer in his heart or something like that, so that's a natural death
    It's funny as that seems to be the only person to die of something that is considered a natural cause. But the real question I have is did he really die of his cancer? His apparant cause of death is vague to say the least. He never said he died of cancer just that he was in the hospital for cancer. For all we know he could have been smothered to death or had a messed up dosage of medication and died from overdose.

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    I dont think that the Old Lady plays any role
    Nishi was probably lying, after all he said that they would hunt aliens for a money reward, and that it was funded by the government.
    He was trying to control the Gantzers to his own benefit.
    I disagree with Mellow_Yellow. It is true that at a certain point it seemed as though Hiroya Oku had ran out of plot material. I dont think he did so early on the story.
    Also, if you look at any other great mangas, the author's have only planned the story so far, and never expected it to become such a great success, and therefore run out of material and dawdle for some time and sometimes even changing their original ideas.
    Examples are: Naruto, DeathNote, and lately i ve come to think that even BERSERK falls into this category.

 

 
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