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    Default The "Fax Copy" theory

    Hello everybody, not_anonymous here, first time poster long time visitor. I just couldn't pull myself back from discussing akward gantz facts with an interesting community so, here's my first go at it and I hope you appreciate it.

    We all remember that mid schooler saying that gantzers are actually copies of their original selves right? When I first heard it I thought it was bull, and didnt pay attention to it. But as I kept reading through the manga I noticed those small little details that can turn your way of thinking upside down and when I finally realized it... I punched the wall...that kid was right.

    How would I be so sure? Fortunately its not as hard to explain as it is to realize it on your own and, well, since you've eaten through this text so far I might as well give the details before I get my arse flamed for blabbering. Note that this goes far beyond the kei (titz) copy we all now, and far more shocking, hehe.

    Every time a gantzer is teleported back to the room after their mission, they always appear in the position in which they have recieved their first lethal/mortal wound. For example in the first mission when katou chokes the veggiedad and gets his wrist cut open, when he is teleported back he appears in the same position, a second before he would've gotten injured.

    Coincidence? Here are some other situations, i think with 2 more it will be enough:

    1) Kurono teleports back from the "birdthing" mission aiming at the ceiling with his gun, why? because that was when the bird cleched his arm and inflicted kurono's first injury.

    2) In the dojo mission kurono is recalled aiming at the floor with both guns in the gantz room, this is because a second later the 8 armed buddha thing chopped his leg and arm off.

    The main point is Gantz teleports them a second before they recieve their first injury.

    Wow this is getting interesting, isnt it? Maybe most of you already thought that the gantzers are copies of their original selves, after seeing that theres actually an original copy of kei (titz), but what you did not know and which is the most frustrating fact to realize is that the gantzers are recycled after every mission meaning that the other katous or kuronos die and are replaced with other unscratched bodies.

    Then how do they remember how the mission ended if they're teleported before they get their first injury? Well I suppose it wouldnt be difficult for Gantz to make a backup copy of the gantzer's last memory into the new body.

    I know most of you will think this is utter BS, may have derivations of this theory or are totally against it as a whole but as the old McDonald slogan goes: "Hey, it could happen".

    Discuss PLEASE

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    I doubt this is what happens. Gantz has the power to revive even those who die in the Gantz world. So it wouldnt make sense if he kept only their bodies as a copy or their memories. In order for Gantz to revive a whole person when Kurono asks for it, he will have to revive that persons whole body and memories also. So this is a loophole in your theory since you think that Gantz only has a copy of their bodies and not their memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [TheFORCE
    ]I doubt this is what happens. Gantz has the power to revive even those who die in the Gantz world. So it wouldnt make sense if he kept only their bodies as a copy or their memories. In order for Gantz to revive a whole person when Kurono asks for it, he will have to revive that persons whole body and memories also. So this is a loophole in your theory since you think that Gantz only has a copy of their bodies and not their memories.
    Gantz may have a copy of everyone before they got their first injury it's just that its a rule that if they die he keeps them dead unlesses someone gets 100 points. So he wouldnt revive them, he'd just bring back a healthy clone, on top of that we dont know if when people are revived they retain there memory or not.

    But you have to admit its more than coincidence the fact the people teleport in the exact positions they were before they recieved their first injury.

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    That kinda makes sense, as they can keep moving while teleporting uninjured.

    It could also base the bodies on the last "safe" state, so that the body does not teleport back with an arm in the wall.

    Gantz can and does store memories, but tries to keep everything synched up to the last moment if possible, otherwise.... it's a bit shocking to Gantzers maybe.

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    Umm, you were saying that Gantz "teleports" you a second before your first injury. By "teleports" I hope you mean "copies." Think of it this way. Maybe those little bombs in their heads do other things, like say, record brain paterns. So its easy for Gantz to bring back your body, he's already made a copy of it the first time you died. The memories he probably takes from the chips/bombs. This would make sense in that everytime he "teleports" you he actually like "faxes" you to a knew area. The only problem with this is that how would Gantz ever get ahold of your bodies data in the first place? This kinda raises just more questions.

    If this is too much of a brain-bleed for anyone, you can just say Gantz is a big Ao (Alpha-Omega) and he works his magic God-Machine wizard powers.
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    This is a very intriguing theory. I like the subtlety of it.

    But the teleportation thing has always bothered me. Having access to that kind of power/technology, the whole notion of Gantz even needing hunters seems flawed. He could just zap/poof the aliens away himself. He already knows where they are (the radar thing).

    Therefore, I'm starting to see the "greater purporse" theory fall apart here. Is it all just a game? This is starting to make more sense. But I see Gantz as just an official, a referee, if you will. There may be some spectators watching for entertainment or gambling purposes. In fact, the gauntlet scenario seems to make the most sense when you factor odds and wagering into the equation.

    The whole teleportation thing reeks of "video game". Revive a person from "memory" alludes to a list of playable characters at a character selection screen in a fighting game.

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    That last Slappers kinda made me think of this, and if you think this is really off topic than just tell me Not_Anonymous, but what if you ask to go to Gantz? I mean, if Gantz truely does have that technology, than why wouldn't he just kill the aliens with some massive "teleport" thing? Maybe Gantz is a game, and somehow, some strange way, you ask to go? Think about it, Gantz doesn't seem to understand us anymore than we understand him? So what if people somehow accidentally do something that Gantz believes makes them want to go? It could be something entirely rediculous like eating a hotdog with a diet coke, but hey, you never know. Just ponder it for a minute and maybe it'll make sense.
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    I don't know about that.

    When Izumi went postal on the crowd in the shopping square I would think there would be over 100 dead who could end up in that room. But less than 20 made it.

    At first I thought Gantz would choose people with the strongest will to live. But that didn't make sense because Kishimoto was commiting suicide before she got teleported and the old man didn't seem to have a lot to live for after his wife died.

    Then I thought it was only those that died violently who got to go to the room, but what about the cancer patient?

    I was trying to see a pattern in all of the people Gantz brought to the room, but so far I haven't. It's as if the author is deliberately trying to make it random. Young, old, male, female, rich, poor, good, evil, religious, crazy. Just about every archetype has appeared. Even homo. If anyone can see a pattern or a common thread that brings people to Gantz, I would love to hear your theories.

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    Someone needs to make a thread like "How must i die to become a Gantzer"...
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    What would be another reason to have such a diverse range of characters hunting with Gantz?

    Perhaps it's an experiment. A study of human nature and how different types of people react under a highly stressful situation. If you were studying humans as a species, wouldn't you want to grab the most diverse sample to draw your conclusions?

    Maybe that's why a group of Americans got picked. Also probalby why only humans get to participate (no vampires) so far.

    The thing that I can't piece together for this theory is, what's up with the Dog/Panda deal? Is it possible Gantz doesn't see any difference between humans and animals, and simply classifies them as native earth creatures?

    Also, as far as I'm aware, everyone who has appeared in the room has died within a few kilometers of Tokyo Tower. So maybe Gantz has a limited range to work within, and there are simply not that many non-humans dieing in that area.

 

 
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