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Good point. But you see, when Sei kicked one of the Buddha’s left hands, one of the swords he was wielding was sent flying. Maybe a folk could just snatch the regeneration amulet from the Buddha’s hands to completely nullify its effects. I think it makes sense, and if that’s the case, then he ain’t all that tough of a foe, although still pretty tough.
Originally Posted by coolerimmortal
I’m still inclined to believe that the Oni’s speed could win the fight. If the amulet can be destroyed without acid, or just snatched from the Buddha’s hand, then the one who hits first is the winner. I think it’s obvious that the Oni is more capable of hitting first. And really, even if the Buddha can slice Oni or hit him with a laser beam, Oni ain’t as fragile as a Gantzer as to get finished of. The laser and the swords can kill easily, but they are “pin-point strikes”. If you can’t hit the laser against the folk’s head or heart, for example, then a tough guy can still keep on fighting. Did you see how far Kurono was sent by the Oni’s punch? That’s destructive power, man. It could kill any unprotected human or alien being, be sure of it.
I can even picture Buddha and Oni trading blows. Oni attacks, snatching Buddha’s amulet away. Buddha counters, cutting of one of Oni’s arms or piercing his chest with a laser shoot (if Oni wasn't far away already). Oni gets pissed and retaliates, opening one hell of a man hole in the Buddha’s chest with just one blow. The end.
Last edited by 1337; 05-25-2006 at 07:47 PM.
It seems like you envision the laser as a gun-type weapon; from what we saw of it, it was more like an extended sword. In other words, if the Oni were hit, he would be dead. Getting hit with it is a pinprick, but then the Buddha moves it, slicing him into pieces.
Or at least that's how I see it going down. The Oni has to do a lot to win; all the Buddha has to do is nail a very large target with an infinitely long laser beam.
Well, it’s some kind of a “long beam” or something. When Buddha was after Katou, he shoots a lot of those beams, so I guess he can’t maintain it like it was a “light saber” or something. But yeah, he could move it side to side before it vanished, so he could cut stuff with it. It would be only tricky to dodge; nothing Oni alien couldn't do (especially if you consider the fact that one hell of a bunch of Gantzers dodged it, and some weren’t with their suit on or were using a wasted suit).
Oh, and about the merits of each boss, I think the Oni boss has more merits. The Buddha killed a whole Gantz team, and that’s cool, but he fought in much better circumstances. First of all, all the Gantzers from the Buddha mission were still inexperienced. Second, Buddha could take his time taking ‘em out; and so he did it, killing one by one. On the other hand, Oni was able to knock unconscious one hell of a strong team, made not only of experienced Gantzers, but talented ones. Oh, and don’t forget the fact that he took all that team’s aces at once.
The whole idea is trully Something (thread).
I don`t have the Battle Royale, yet, but i understand that it`ll be kinda like Tournament, LastManStanding, Everyone for himself, right? So the basic idea of it to stay alive. At the begining we already have two ways: Gatzers with Equipment or without it? Wthout it they would Suck, so i take it as if they were with all the uber powerfull stuff. All the badasses and third-plan chars would definatly die anyway, and with other we have two ways again: will they be taken with the current statement of memory or they wouldn`t remember anything (This one goes for aliens too). If they will remember everything that happened, they`ll die fast. Why? Because.. just put yourself in a aliens` place, whom would you kill? definatly the gantzers, Revenge sweet revenge. If they won`t remember anything major part of people would die as sideeffect of aliens fights, exept for Muscle Rider/Izumy/Kurono(maybe,if he would figure out how the stuff works in about 5 seconds,so it`s sad but he`s considered DEAD). i would think that Muscles wouldn`t hang out for long time, but Izumy is diffrent (man, those halfs of vamps on the ground), he with his sword would Survive untill Finals.
Then, the aliens: Onion Alien aka green one, the wery first (you see i have the first chapters in russian and am wery lazy to redownload them from here :P, so names can differ) > weak > would die.
Those Tanaka (right?) nothing imperssive too. <DEAD.
Then the buddha: in this mission all aliens do not seem to be a team or something, so each of them is soloing in a way (LOL MMORPG slang :P), but each is strong inuf to fight, we`ll take them as NOTDEAD4NOW.
Then those Chibi aliens. Those`re my favs, so i`ll be for them ^.^. They Work as a TEAM, you can`t say thet about anybody else (exept Gantzers, but look above..) And plus they were Intelligent so to say, they would do a Tactics and a classical Team work (Like tactical retreat right after the beginning). So we`ll leave them alive.
Dinosaurs... LOL no comments, no just one word - MEAT. (do you think alien prehistorical meat is delitios on bbq??)
Oni aliens: N00b1sh minions would die fast, they weren`t as strons as Buddha minions. But not those Oni`s, if i remeber correctly: Transformer, Fire and t3h ub3r - Lightning. Oh yeah here i remembered the TAE alien, shes strong and will be the winner in any circumstances, so we`ll consider her DEAD. Oh yeah here i remembered the Stone one ^_^. the transformer and stone onis would do major damage, but still, only fire and lightning would survive to the Finals, i don`t have to explain that, right?
So now we have the nasty finals: UberOni+FireOni,ChibiTeam,Izumi,Buddha+Some minions.
Now it`s my idead of battlefield: you all say that Oni vs Buddha 1vs1 but you don`t seem to understand that there will be a mass killing, not a 1vs1 tournament. So lets goto Psycholigics of Finalists: Chibi aliens are a team, they work together well. Fire Oni has a sortof God mode, if not EPS he would not died, since he`s as fast as Lightning one (It`s MY Opinion), and can dodge a lot of everything, while fighting with the rest of Buddha`s minions he would be shot by buddha with either laser or acid, and to burn buddha himself he would have to touch him and knowing of buddha`s regeneration abilities he would have to take a while to burn that statue, i nough wime for buddha to sprincle the @ HolyWater on Oni, so fire is outta here. Chibi team would do a teamwork and kill out each weak enough alien, but sad to think of the have bad midair, and with Izumi extending his sword all the time they are doomed, BUT they as clever ones could wait untill only one survivor, wich would be VERY tired, and just finish him. And i think Vs buddha`s laser Lightning Oni has not a chanse, because look at his fighting style, he alwways keeps fighting back, he doesn`t pay enough attention to surroundings. While minions keep him busy One sniper shot from buddha and he`s dead. And besides that buddha has Much more chanses of sorvivng than any other, cause of his MassDamage skillz (acid sprincling/cyclops look) so with his bodyguards defending him it would take 1-2 looks on battlefield and mere opponents would be left (like retreated Chibi team).
So i`m too lazy to write the champions names and describe the Superfinal fights, just think about what i wrote. i Think with buddha and 1-3 minions left Chibi`s would come out of hiding place and would figure out the way of his amulet, and really they could accidently do the same as Tomb Raider girl - spill the acid over the amulet. Those are my winners.
But did you play LMS in some MMORPG (like lineage2), it all depends on who teams up with whom and who will be attaced by whom when. (WOW suck a phraze).
PS sorry for some prabable mistakes bicaz aj em not Inglish/Emerikan and i ma not so frienly wth my new keybaodr !!!11!!
PPS WOW my very 1st post here, and this is almoust my first forum ever (Frist english one) and already such an annoyng and long one ... ... LOL
Reread it ROFLMAO a torture for u guys, sorry ^_^
Edit PPPS do you have limitation for posts size or something?
Last edited by DafZT; 05-26-2006 at 08:59 AM.
I'm not saying it'll be 1v1. I'm saying "m4d k1ll4g3" will occur, leaving the Oni and Buddha bosses as the last men standing.
Mind you, in my descriptions of the Buddha boss, much of my impression of his power comes from the anime. In particular, I remember when the sniper tried to kill him...The Buddha was able to fire a continuous beam that followed the sniper around the roof, slicing up the building and ultimately killing the sniper. Basically, the Gantzers could dodge the beam for a short time, but ultimately it became impossible.
True, the Buddha boss did have an ideal situation. You must remember, though, the mindsets of the two bosses. The Oni was out for blood; he wanted a slaughter. He had been planning to massacre the Gantzers. The Buddha was confused; he didn't know why his friends were being killed. Were he on the offensive from the start, I suspect he would have won easily.
Keep this in mind: The Oni has the advantages of (a) extreme speed, (b) extreme strength, and (c) lightning powers. The Buddha is a statue; I can't see the lightning doing much to him. We didn't see enough of the Buddha to know if it had strength or speed, but we did see its weapons. I do suspect that the "final form" of it, the thing that came out of the statue, was quite a bit more powerful than the Statue form; it lost because it was weakened.
But we don`t need a misunderstanding here, I wasn`t cheering for the Oni from the beginning. And besides that, i think Onis, both fire and lightning, and buddha were killed too easy in Manga, it somehow reminds me of DB - Puff SSJ, so goku kicks ass, Puff 3rd stage, Cell kicks ass.
I have to free some space on my HDD to finally download the cursed Gantz Anime, oh what am i saying, Htiman:Blood Money is out, Gantz will wait.
this thread seems to be great. wouldnt it be fun to reconsider this thread with Gantzers having possible "superweapons" (choosing #2 in 100 pt menu) ?
We don't know enough about those weapons yet to factor them in.
Originally Posted by borabosna
yes exactly, which makes it even more fun since we can imagine some weapons ourselves; what kind of weapons could give Gantzers a chance against the bosses etc.
Originally Posted by coolerimmortal