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http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/...out/page2.html

Ouch.

I don't get it...=/

I think it means nVidia owns with the 8800Ultra, and loses by the GPU Frequency.

Originally Posted by Henchy432

I don't get it...=/

If you look at the graphs, ATI's DirectX 10 performance EXTREMELY SUCKS. In some cases it performs worse than the GeForce 8 lowest budget cards do.

I'm sad to see ATI losing this badly. They were my personal preference for video cards for the last few generations and forced nVidia to get serious and give us the glorious 8800GTX, but unless they do something miraculous I can see them being forced out of the market almost entirely. That would be bad, because then nVidia could sit back and relax and give us mediocre graphics card revisions for the next few generations (after the GF9) until someone else steps up to bat.

Originally Posted by MadDogMike

If you look at the graphs, ATI's DirectX 10 performance EXTREMELY SUCKS. In some cases it performs worse than the GeForce 8 lowest budget cards do.

I'm sad to see ATI losing this badly. They were my personal preference for video cards for the last few generations and forced nVidia to get serious and give us the glorious 8800GTX, but unless they do something miraculous I can see them being forced out of the market almost entirely. That would be bad, because then nVidia could sit back and relax and give us mediocre graphics card revisions for the next few generations (after the GF9) until someone else steps up to bat.

Hahaha nVidia <3

I don't dislike nVidia. I bought myself both a 7800GTX (for being the first true SM3.0 card) and an 8800GTX after all (I'm not going to do myself a disservice by being stubborn and buying a lesser card just because of the brand). It's just that for a while ATI offered better performance and visual quality at lower price, which is all anyone could ever ask for, and I loved them for it. They're the reason video card technology is now progressing at such a fast rate, once they're out of the game and nVidia doesn't have to compete with anybody anymore I wouldn't expect them to keep up their current pace.

Also, nVidia doesn't "lose" at the GPU frequency. GPU clock speed isn't like a score which determines how good your card is. Not too long ago Athlon XP CPUs with lower clock speeds actually out-performed the higher clocked Pentium 4 CPUs because they were optimised much better and did more work per clock cycle.

Originally Posted by MadDogMike

I don't dislike nVidia. I bought myself both a 7800GTX (for being the first true SM3.0 card)

Uh no.
The 6 series were.
Technically, the 7 series are overpowered 6 series cards. They didn't introduce any new technologies (SLI, Purevideo, SM 3.0, etc were all in the 6 series).

Reviews I had read at the time that I bought my 7800GTX said the 7800 series included some SM3.0 features that the 6800 series lacked. I can't remember what magazine it was from, but if that's not true then I guess it's a good thing that I stopped buying it.

GG
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