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    Yeah. But imho Disgaea has better animations. Nothing is on the level of the Fist technique King of Beasts. That is a-freaking-mazing. Favorite move ever. Damn all this talk is making me want to pick up Makai Kingdom again... shit... I wonder, can we agree? Aside from one or two weapons in Makai Kingdom (I agree about the Dagger, never used a pie or Yoshitsuna, never really used any vehicles) I think Disgaea has superior (read: complex) animation although Makai Kingdom has more.


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    Disgaea 2 were well thought out although most of them were just redone attacks from D1, so that's why I like Makai Kingdoms, some attacks like Zetta's Omega Drive were fantastic, and Seven Sins is always impressive.

    Although King of Beasts is impressive, I like D1's version more than D2. I agree the animations themselves (as in the sprites movements) were more complex and detailed, but the creativity of some of the attacks in Makai Kingdom is a lot better. Some are just plain awesome, others are funny as hell.

    I dunno, I like D2's animations, but they are a little too grounded and not as wild as Makai Kingdoms, but you really have to unlock all the weapon attacks to be able to compare. That's one of the things I did in MK, just unlock every weapon skill and spell I could.

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    It may take me a year or so... But I'll do that and get back to you... Right now I'm concentrating all my time and energy into unlocking the Land of Carnage. Makai Kingdom will have to wait =(


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    Yeah, it's best to focus on one game before going to the next. Land of Carnage is good for skilling up weapons to learn new skills =P

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    Yeah... its taking forever though, been at D2 for over 200 hours and still only have ~8 treasure maps... =(


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetnubis View Post
    Do you use Photoshop Shautieh? If so, grab any 2d pixel sprite, CTRL+T and enlarge it. How it looks after is the kind of effect that Disgaea has when the sprites are stretched.
    of course, but the objective would be to make them in high res and then scale them DOWN when necessary, not the other way around ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetnubis View Post
    I highly doubt they will touch up the sprites. They are 2d always have been always will be, You cant do much with 2d graphics besides bend them, but you loose quality and the pixels become blurred.

    The only increase in graphics will be on the background graphics, and the special effects. But, if those pictures are from D3, then its not much of a difference at all.

    The HQ sprites from the current SF project are just increased in scale and then drawn over, literally. If you do that with Disgaea, you will fit less on the screen. Its also isometric pixel art, unlike Odin's Spear and SF which are side scrollers.
    I was exaggerating a bit... I didnt mean that HQ... More like, when you look at the background its sharp, but you can clearly still see the squares of the pixels on the sprite. To me the bg and sprites should be equally detailed. The lines should be thinner and sharper on the sprite or at least if theyre gonna make them thicker, be less jaggy.

    Look at Stella Deus if you want to know what I mean.


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    Ah yes, Stella Deus, beautiful graphics, shame about the boring, well, everything else.

    I see what you mean Shautieh, that would be nice I guess. But alas, I wouldn't want the task of revamping all the old sprites :P.


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    Overall the Disgaea games have been okay imo, and I was actually hoping that they'd go 3d if they were going to make a third one... and I REALLY hope they fix the camera angles this time. -_-

    Anyway about the sprites, Guilty Gear has the best sprites and are large too...so I don't get the problem with having HQ when Sammy seems to do it pretty well.
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    It's not that NIS can't do it, and do it well, it's just that they probably don't want too. And moving from 2D > 3D is just a bad idea, they're doing it to Guilty Gear and everyone seems pissed. Understandably I'd be pissed if Digaea went 3D. The sprites really shouldn't be compared (if you want to compare it to something, compare it to other SRPGs) because they're different genres and obviously Disgaea has no need for uber fancy high quality sprites.

    And what's wrong with the camera? Not like it actually stops you from playing properly...

 

 
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