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    I highly doubt they will touch up the sprites. They are 2d always have been always will be, You cant do much with 2d graphics besides bend them, but you loose quality and the pixels become blurred.

    The only increase in graphics will be on the background graphics, and the special effects. But, if those pictures are from D3, then its not much of a difference at all.

    The HQ sprites from the current SF project are just increased in scale and then drawn over, literally. If you do that with Disgaea, you will fit less on the screen. Its also isometric pixel art, unlike Odin's Spear and SF which are side scrollers.


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    if they used a higher resolution it wouldn't look that pixelated, right ?

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    Disgaea games always have used pretty high quality sprites, the difference between this and D2 is also how they animate them, how big the game will be (face it, D1 and D2 had plenty of content, imagine it on the PS3).

    If they upped the graphics on the sprites (they could do Odin Sphere quality) they lose the charm of the characters. That's not to say that they can't use HQ sprites for things like cutscenes. But if you know NIS and know Disgaea what is there to be disappointed about?

    Only thing people were disappointed about was the fact that it's on PS3, which makes me believe that people talk shit for no reason. Reason people hate the PS3 (or won't buy it) is because of the price and lack of good games or games they want, when a good game comes on out the PS3 people whine and complain even more (not directed at anyone in this thread).

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    ok, so the graphics are old school on purpose ? (i never played older disgaea games, and won't play to this one a priori)
    If they looked the same than in the artworks it would rock even more without loosing their charm, don't you think ?

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    I think they made them look like that on purpose. Most NIS games have sprites that look like that, and Makai Kingdom proved that they can make excellent HQ sprites when they want too.

    The thing is, the artwork is always present in the game via cut-ins and other drawings. So you don't need sprites that mimic the artwork when you can just use the artwork itself. It's not exactly tradition, I dunno how to explain it really. It just really helps the feeling of the games.

    If you look at the first screenshot, that's something I never would've thought I would see, that shows they're adding even more animations and frames to the game already. The backgrounds look sharper and nicer and I can't WAIT to see the attack animations.

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    ehhh.... I think Disgaea 2 by far has the best sprites of the NIS games...




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    Quote Originally Posted by shautieh View Post
    if they used a higher resolution it wouldn't look that pixelated, right ?
    Yea, that would work, but resolution only goes so high. and you still need to fit a level to go along with your characters.

    Do you use Photoshop Shautieh? If so, grab any 2d pixel sprite, CTRL+T and enlarge it. How it looks after is the kind of effect that Disgaea has when the sprites are stretched.

    @SD, Nah Makai Kingdom had superior everything IMO. From what I have seen anyway.


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    When I said HQ sprites in Makai Kingdom, I meant the sprites they used to the intro and ending. The in battle sprites were relatively LQ because of all the stuff that could happen in the game, in a battle and all the little tidbits. Not to mention Makai Kingdom has so many goddamn attack animations (the most impressive I've seen in any NIS game do far).

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    Oh. I still havent unlocked most of the ultimate attacks in Makai Kingdom (takes so damn long) so I wouldn't know... Ill keep an eye out for those attack animations though... Its weird though. I thought about it and if theres like 15 or so human classes in disgaea times six weapons times six attacks thats alot of animating to do... Makai Kingdom has more I think though...


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    makai kingdom has more job classes (monster+human) and more weapon types, but disgaea has unique weapon sprites for each weapon, makai has a few generic ones.

    most notible of the attack animation are dagger, they have some really fucking cool animations, spears are good as well. weirder ones are pie, fan and the hand launcher, bazooka and rifle have really cool animations. not to mention the vehical attacks are awesome too (like metal gear lex, and the donut car. not to mention the yoshitsuna)

 

 
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