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    I went to best buy and walmart and they both had tents and lines.

    What losers. I just went there to pick up animeAND GAMES (FMP FUMOFU!? volume 3 and GEARS OF WAR)

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    about those lines
    what exactly keeps someone from just

    walking to the front?
    i dont think they have bouncers or anything like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talamare View Post
    about those lines
    what exactly keeps someone from just

    walking to the front?
    i dont think they have bouncers or anything like that
    Fear of confrontation with other people in the line, nerds are such pussies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    i hate to admit it but i agree wth Talamare... some games are just exclusive to PS and you wont find them anywhere, im not one of those people who buy a system because its cheaper and has similar games to what i want. if i want a game i get it no the next best thing. plus you can tout the specs all you want but im no fan of FPS (they give me headaches) or GTA clones (why not just buy GTA and be done with it) which is like the vast majority of 360 games... the only ones that remotely interest me for the 360 that are coming out are Lost Planet and Gears of War. Everything else is just boring or ported sports crap.

    anyways i preoder nothing and i hate M$... ill be getting my PS3 in 2007 when all the bugs are worked out and theres a truly revolutionary game or two to make the cost easier to swallow...

    ... but ill never go to M$...
    Meh. I'm not really a console person but I'll sure as hell get Xbox360...when Halo 3 comes out.

    @98abaile: the people are the front are even nerdier (since they managed to arrive earlier, showing their devotion to gaming), wouldn't they be even more of a pussy than you? Then...nothing's stopping us big manly men to marching to the front of the line!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyuu View Post
    Here are some facts:


    About HD-DVD and Blu-Ray Disc.
    While the Blu-Ray Disc can hold much more data than the HD-DVD, the current movies look better on HD-DVD due to the fact that they use H.264 for the latter and the older, uglier MPEG-2 for the BD. Moreover, with the advent of procedural texturing, having lots of space for games is becoming irrelevant. With proper coding and technology, you can easily fit a huge game with lots of audio and textures and maps onto a STANDARD DVD. Gears of War shows us that.
    Right now, it's HD-DVD that's winning.

    About the PS3 and its games.
    Games on the PS3 look worse than their Xbox 360 counterparts. If you look at Ridge Racer 6 on the 360 and Ridge Racer 7 (THE SEQUEL) on the PS3, RR6 looks a lot better due to the fact that the Xenos is more powerful than the RSX. Developers have also confirmed that many CPU-intensive games like Assassin's Creed (for the crowd AI) will be better on the 360 because while the Cell is potentially better, it can't be easily fully utilized as the Xenon. It's like driving a Mini and a BMW on a long, winded road. Why have a faster car when it can't handle as well?

    The Xbox 360 is a very solid console that has proven what it can do. Games are going to be multi-platform as from now on. They may initially be timed exclusives, but they will end up being on various consoles. Take a look at MGS4. When it will be done, it will have costed millions of dollars to make and it will be released when there may be about 800 thousand PS3 units worldwide. Considering that not every PS3 owner will buy the game, how will Kojima recover the investment and get proft? By going on the Xbox 360 too. It may not be at launch, but give it some months and MGS4 WILL be on the 360.

    So here's my point:
    Why wait to get the PS3 when you can get a 360 right now?
    as of blu-ray against hd-dvd...its main focus isnt on games, their focus is on movies and what not. Hd-dvd has enough room for an high definition movie, and just a bit more extra space. Besides that, the only other difference that people (meaning movie reviewers, etc) have clearly stated was just the sound, but that wont be a problem for long since coding for that will be done. Also the reason why hd-dvd has a little edge is becuz its been out a little longer than blu-ray has.

    and the ps3 vs 360. You said it yourself, they cant fully utilize the cell processor yet. And from what i've seen, there is no big major graphic difference from the two consoles YET. Meaning, when they can fully utilize the ps3, the ps3 will look better graphically.

    not trying to pick a fight or anything, but i thought i'd say something.

    last thing, not sure if u knew this or not, but Mini is made by BMW.

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    Is it worth waiting? Wii is better IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuce22 View Post
    Meaning, when they can fully utilize the ps3, the ps3 will look better graphically.
    Oh hey, the RSX is weaker than the Xenos. This is a fact. No theoretical power or anything. It's like a 1900XT against a 7900GT.

    The graphics of the PS3 will NEVER be better than the 360. No hidden untapped potential there.

    The only thing that can happen is that the graphics of the 360 will only get better since it uses a UNIFIED SHADER ARCHITECTURE and developers have only started working on it. The RSX uses the more traditional vertex and pixel shader combo and the limitations are already known and proven.

    Why do you think both ATI and NVIDIA are moving towards a unified shader architecture? It's far better than the previous methods. Heck, just look at the 8800GTX.

    And if you can't see the graphical differences between the 360 and PS3, you are clearly blind. Look at Ridge Racer 6 and 7.
    http://www.destructoid.com/ridge-rac...ns-27828.phtml



    Loving the sharper textures and more advanced shaders of the water on the 360.
    Oh look at the street paint! Sharper! Looks like 512MB of VRAM really helps in here.

    Oh shoot! The PS3 has had objects removed!~ And the water is ugly too!


    Another shot that shows that 512MB of VRAM in the 360 really helps for sharper textures:

    And it looks like trilinear filtering. No anisotropic filtering.

    Some guy from Digg:
    Ha, not really... but it is VERY interesting, to see that a previous version of a game released one year earlier on a system released one year earlier overall looks better than the new version on the new system. The PS3 RR7 should've blown away the 360's RR6. They both launched with the systems..development time can't be an excuse. Let's see how this plays out with future games.

    The differences are clear:
    The 360 has a weaker but more easily utilized CPU but a more powerful GPU.
    The PS3 has a more powerful CPU but can't be fully utilized yet and a weaker GPU.


    If you still believe in the "PS3 = powerhouse" thing, tell me whatever you believe in and I will try and bust it.
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    why does that RR7 game look like it belongs on the PS2?

    i think my need for speed game for ps1 looked jus a tiny bit worse then it ~_~

    RR7 for PS3 is an ugly but it doesnt 100% confirm that all games for the ps3 will look ugly

    and even if they do, a lot of PS2 games looked really ugly (especially when compared to Xbox and even GC) and still sold REALLY well, sooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talamare View Post
    RR7 for PS3 is an ugly but it doesnt 100% confirm that all games for the ps3 will look ugly

    and even if they do, a lot of PS2 games looked really ugly (especially when compared to Xbox and even GC) and still sold REALLY well, sooo
    Well Resistance is looking particularly bland with the muddy textures and low-poly models.

    I agree with you with you on the PS2 thing, but the selling point of the PS3 is it's alleged power. The PS2 had good exclusives, but seeing how so many games are going to be multi-platform for obvious reasons I have stated previously, there's not much reason for getting a PS3 over a 360 other than FFXIII. Blue Dragon on the 360 looks particularly cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyuu View Post
    Well Resistance is looking particularly bland with the muddy textures and low-poly models.

    I agree with you with you on the PS2 thing, but the selling point of the PS3 is it's alleged power. The PS2 had good exclusives, but seeing how so many games are going to be multi-platform for obvious reasons I have stated previously, there's not much reason for getting a PS3 over a 360 other than FFXIII. Blue Dragon on the 360 looks particularly cool.
    yeah im ashamed to admit i was a bit underwhelmed by the graphics but i hear the hit detection is supposed to be awesome and that combined with the weapons should make for an unforgettable play experience. i still await Killzone 2, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank 5, Unreal 2007, Gran Turismo 5, and other PS3 exclusives that should give them a competitive edge against porting, crossplatforming, and halfway decent M$ exclusives.

    although i must say i was extremely dissapointed to see Endless Saga cancelled all that time ago... i wanted to see how that woulda turned out...


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