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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    To be honest I don't understand why you don't like it (apart from the radar), but that's your thing and I respect that =\
    I DO like the game, a lot, but I'm also willing to admit that it could have been more fun if they hadn't changed the radar like they did. I don't know about you, but the only way I could actually see where enemies were in the jungle was by using the thermal goggles.

    EDIT: On Oblivion... this is the only game that actually defies the point I made in my previous posts. I was a big fan of Daggerfall and Morrowind, so I didn't like the fact that they changed the game mechanics so much to suit the Xbox 360.
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    ah, I misunderstood you there. I usually played MGS without the radar so it wasn't a big deal, and I thought they included pretty creative ways of detecting enemies (sonar etc).

    honestly the radar in the olders games made it too easy and I could see the amount of critizisms Kojima would've gotten if he kept the radar the same but all your other equipment was dated.

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    CT is a phenomenon, just like Zelda, Final fantasy, and MGS (and other games I haven't mentioned)
    (Chrono Break is abandoned),
    even though Chrono cross is not as good as CT I think they can do better on the third sequel, too bad they didn't continue with it, they could have been big game sequel, like Suikoden (even though suikoden sucks after they transformed into a 3D.)

    just like MGS, they did really good at the first one, but not on the second MGS, but hey they didn't stop there, they make the third, which I think really much better than the previous, and now they come up with the 4th one.
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    we do have masterpieces like we did before. the PROBLEM is jaded gamers who subconciously cant let go of the games they were raised on and compare the feelings they had when first playing a masterpiece to the ones they have once they complete it and work on something else, the dissapointment rolls over and renders them unable to fully grasp the wonder of the games they play now in the present because they cant get over how much they loved the games of old. its not that the games now are any worse or have any less care put into them as their made, its just you.


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    ^Yeah, that basically sums it up. I just can't get over how great it was playing older games in the old days, and games these days don't give the same feeling anymore. But it's still true that game companies are spewing out alot of crappy games as well, or games that are all the same. "Oh look! Another WWII FPS!" that sort of thing.

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    yeah i guess... im a bit objective, i know ill never love any game like i loved Super Mario World, or Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past, or RollerCoaster Tycoon. but i wouldnt even begin to compare them to Final Fantasy X, Disgaea, Grandia 2, Ratchet and Clank, Resident Evil 4, Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Gold/Silver, Freedom Fighters, Gran Turismo 3, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance... all the games i would describe as the paragon of gaming i view on equal planes so its easy for me to understand and explain when some people cant... maybe its just because ive missed so many great games and not finished even more that i can respect the great ones i have played equally no matter how old they are.


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    Same here, Super mario World holds a special place in my heart...but I also like all the games you've listed, save pokemon. I liked the first 2 pokemon games I've played (Yellow, and sapphire), but then the rest were more or less the same in terms of story and gameplay, so I quit the series. Still, they were good the first time round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    Xenogears, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy Tactics(but lots of clones worst than the original), Baldur's Gate 1 or 2, Fallout 1 or 2
    I bolded the ones I didn't grow up playing, and therefore don't hold any emotional shit(yes, I played them in the past, but most of my time with them was quite recent). As I said, this is an old complaint, and I have read this kind of reply before, so when making the topic I specially put some games that I didn't grow up with.
    Oh yeah, just because I feel this fits the topic: I have a friend that finishes Zelda Ocarina of Time, Pokémon(for GBC) and Final Fantasy Tactics at least once per year, some times more than once per game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    we do have masterpieces like we did before. the PROBLEM is jaded gamers who subconciously cant let go of the games they were raised on and compare the feelings they had when first playing a masterpiece to the ones they have once they complete it and work on something else, the dissapointment rolls over and renders them unable to fully grasp the wonder of the games they play now in the present because they cant get over how much they loved the games of old. its not that the games now are any worse or have any less care put into them as their made, its just you.
    The only reason a gamer even starts thinking that way is because the games he/she currently plays aren't providing as much fun as they should be.

    I was arguing about how Metal Gear Solid 1 was more fun than Metal Gear Solid 3 earlier in this thread, if you would care to read it. What I didn't mention is that the first time I played Metal Gear Solid was about 5-6 months ago. I played a bunch of semi-recent RPGs about 4 months ago and because they bored me, I decided to play Chrono Trigger again and had a complete blast. Does what you said still apply when I can play these old games in this very day and age, and they can still win out over the new games despite being extremely out-dated? I gave my reasoning for it before.

    Of course, my reasoning doesn't apply to everybody. What I'd like to point out though, is that yours doesn't either. Try not to make huge generalisations.
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    the problem is graphics and money, because a game will not sold without good graphics (or so think most of the game publishers), and good graphics needs money to be put on the table
    when you invest this much, you want to have as much profit as possible (to be able to do other, even more expensive, games, and to please share holders), and thus you tailor the game to please a maximum of people, cleaning off all the little things that they think would make the majority hate the game....... and these little things are maybe what you or i would have loved the best, too bad (it's the same for the food, standard is not a synonym of greatness for a particular individual, generally)

    and so oblivion (by ex) has too few types of weapons, too few skills, too few *puts what you want* because it was meant to be as widespread as possible, and the average, non especially RPG fan, people doesn't like having too much choices and be lost in a too complex world ^^"
    (and oblivion was the last TES game i'll ever buy, unless there are drastic changes at bethesda)

 

 
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